At that point I really think it comes down to builds. A SH built up lightish could feel much more nimble and quick than a Gallop with full racks, fenders, heavy tires etc. I agree with Jason that built the same they would likely feel pretty similar.
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > I can't offer a very good A-B comparison based on their setups, though > they've both been set up with the Wavie bar at one point or another, but my > feel so far is that they're not too different from one another - I noticed > from the attached engineering drawings that the tubing is quite similar > spec, though a bit more flex built into the Charlie, and the angles are > similar also (some math required on the CHG but it's HTA 71 / 71.5 STA). > They both seem to possess that 'surprisingly quick considering it's so > comfortable' quality, but my belief is that it would be marginal gains at > best going from a Sam to a CHG in terms of speed, with the same setup. > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:48 AM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Gallop riders – Does anyone have a take on the Gallop in contrast to >> an unloaded Hillborne with drops? I know Jason has a Hillborne but racked >> and fendered. Curious how they compare :) >> >> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:31:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> Killer! I can't wait to see it. Make sure to post it up here when its >>> done. The extra few mm of height on those mini-v's should be perfect. I >>> have the Box mini's and they cleared a real world 48mm tire with just a >>> touch of clearance. The extra bit of height should allow you to clear >>> 50's. I plan to move to Rivendell V's when they are available only because >>> I love the way they are looking from the early drawings and such. >>> >>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: >>> >>>> Johny: yes, my friend was quick on the draw and got it for me because >>>> they knew it was my ideal version of a Charlie - gotta have those >>>> canti/v-brake posts. It’ll end up replacing my Sam Hillborne. >>>> >>>> Now Charlie’s sitting (ironically with no saddle) in my garage waiting >>>> for a few quick changes (replace the C15 narrow saddle with my Flyer >>>> imperial, add a rack and basket) before getting some commuter duty and a >>>> nice long ride next weekend… then more tinkering and changes to follow >>>> like: >>>> • Mini v-brakes (likely Shimano BR R353 with 90mm arch, taller than the >>>> Box Two or Three 85mm mini v’s), >>>> • Swapping for my Hillborne’s wheelset (first wheels I built) with >>>> G-One Allround 50mm tires >>>> • Dynamo lights, >>>> • 46/30t double crankset to a 11-40t cassette (which may require a >>>> wolftooth-like hanger extender), and >>>> • Kona Wah Wah pedals. >>>> >>>> Now I just need some spare time for wrenching … but I’ll probably spend >>>> that time riding my daughters around in the Rosco Baby bike instead. The >>>> highest form of productive procrastination. >>>> >>>> Abe >>>> >>>> On Friday, 11 February 2022 at 16:51:41 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype? >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to be >>>>>> replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to come >>>>>> later). >>>>>> [image: IMG_3134.JPG] >>>>>> [image: IMG_7170.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/j5vUNKjgsUE/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c76ba657-1a75-47ac-8c8d-753a07704a5dn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c76ba657-1a75-47ac-8c8d-753a07704a5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/69e1ed48-7341-47f5-abd0-49e091a6dfb4n%40googlegroups.com.
