I had the same issue with the stem but didn't attribute it to being a prototype. I can't use taller stems at all because they just don't go down deep enough. Is that not the case with standard Riv's?
I used Billie's and really enjoyed it. It's clear that the frame was built for sweptbacks. On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:38:28 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > Update - put on the Albatross bars. One kind of annoying nuance to this > prototype frame is that they didn't ream the steerer as deep as they do for > their production bikes, so I can't get the stem quite as low as I wanted, > but it's close enough that it doesn't warrant buying a new stem. That said, > I am actually quite floored by how much the Albatross brought this bike to > life for what I want from it. I've run these bars on a few bikes but this > is the best they've felt on any bike for me. It's feeling very right to me > now. I know it's meant to be a roadish bike but I'd sooner put drops on a > Homer or Hillborne; to me this bike suits the Albatross so perfectly. > > > > On Tuesday, 15 February 2022 at 19:46:08 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: > >> Photo from today's lunchtime loop. I will be performing a bar/stem swap >> between this bike and the Bombadil (which is 11cm Tallux and Albatross) as >> well as cabling etc, then I believe the bike is "done" for a bit. Oh, and a >> cheap dynamo front wheel because a commuter must have dynamo in my books. >> >> As much as I would not pick these tires for myself, I must admit they're >> pretty well suited to my needs (daily commuting and general getting around >> on pavement and hardpack paths) so I am going to do my best to leave them >> well enough alone. I was quite pleased to see they clear the VO Zeppelin >> fenders with plenty of room despite being at the top end of the fitment >> range. >> >> Has anyone tried shellac'ing over the padded Newbaums? Yay or nay? >> >> [image: PXL_20220215_222746275.jpg] >> >> On Monday, 14 February 2022 at 10:11:31 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Very cool, thank ya both! >>> >>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:32:32 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> At that point I really think it comes down to builds. A SH built up >>>> lightish could feel much more nimble and quick than a Gallop with full >>>> racks, fenders, heavy tires etc. I agree with Jason that built the same >>>> they would likely feel pretty similar. >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't offer a very good A-B comparison based on their setups, though >>>>> they've both been set up with the Wavie bar at one point or another, but >>>>> my >>>>> feel so far is that they're not too different from one another - I >>>>> noticed >>>>> from the attached engineering drawings that the tubing is quite similar >>>>> spec, though a bit more flex built into the Charlie, and the angles are >>>>> similar also (some math required on the CHG but it's HTA 71 / 71.5 STA). >>>>> They both seem to possess that 'surprisingly quick considering it's so >>>>> comfortable' quality, but my belief is that it would be marginal gains at >>>>> best going from a Sam to a CHG in terms of speed, with the same setup. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:48 AM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Gallop riders – Does anyone have a take on the Gallop in contrast >>>>>> to an unloaded Hillborne with drops? I know Jason has a Hillborne but >>>>>> racked and fendered. Curious how they compare :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:31:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Killer! I can't wait to see it. Make sure to post it up here when >>>>>>> its done. The extra few mm of height on those mini-v's should be >>>>>>> perfect. >>>>>>> I have the Box mini's and they cleared a real world 48mm tire with just >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> touch of clearance. The extra bit of height should allow you to clear >>>>>>> 50's. I plan to move to Rivendell V's when they are available only >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> I love the way they are looking from the early drawings and such. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Johny: yes, my friend was quick on the draw and got it for me >>>>>>>> because they knew it was my ideal version of a Charlie - gotta have >>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>> canti/v-brake posts. It’ll end up replacing my Sam Hillborne. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now Charlie’s sitting (ironically with no saddle) in my garage >>>>>>>> waiting for a few quick changes (replace the C15 narrow saddle with my >>>>>>>> Flyer imperial, add a rack and basket) before getting some commuter >>>>>>>> duty >>>>>>>> and a nice long ride next weekend… then more tinkering and changes to >>>>>>>> follow like: >>>>>>>> • Mini v-brakes (likely Shimano BR R353 with 90mm arch, taller than >>>>>>>> the Box Two or Three 85mm mini v’s), >>>>>>>> • Swapping for my Hillborne’s wheelset (first wheels I built) with >>>>>>>> G-One Allround 50mm tires >>>>>>>> • Dynamo lights, >>>>>>>> • 46/30t double crankset to a 11-40t cassette (which may require a >>>>>>>> wolftooth-like hanger extender), and >>>>>>>> • Kona Wah Wah pedals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I just need some spare time for wrenching … but I’ll probably >>>>>>>> spend that time riding my daughters around in the Rosco Baby bike >>>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>>> The highest form of productive procrastination. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Abe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, 11 February 2022 at 16:51:41 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to >>>>>>>>>> be replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to >>>>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>>>> later). >>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3134.JPG] >>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_7170.jpg] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/j5vUNKjgsUE/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c76ba657-1a75-47ac-8c8d-753a07704a5dn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c76ba657-1a75-47ac-8c8d-753a07704a5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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