Has anyone used the Dia Compe BRS202? How does it compare to the R559? Best,
Aaron in El Paso On Jul 13, 2022, at 10:12, Daniel MacPherson <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the review. I remember seeing them a while back on the QBP website and thought to myself that I should snag the last two. I regret not doing that now. Sincerely, Daniel M Tallahassee, FL On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:46 PM esoterica etc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey Daniel, > > I have a set of Paul Racers with TRP RRL levers on my Soma San Marcos > (Riv-made and very similar to an AHH), and a set of the Tektro 559s with > Shimano 600 non-aero levers on my Schwinn World Voyageur set up as a double > single-speed bike. > > I've taken the Schwinn on roads where I've gotten right around 30 mph (~72 > gear inches), as well as some singletrack (~49 gear inches), and the Tektros > slow and stop just fine for me. I am running 700c wheels on the Schwinn and > the brake pads are just about halfway down in the slots, so I do have a bit > more mechanical advantage than someone running 650b wheels with the pads at > the very bottom of the slots. > > Having said that, the Paul Racers are much better in my opinion. Even though > the Racers are almost maxed out at the bottom of the slots on the San Marcos > (650b wheels), they have much more power than the Tektros at mid-slot. The > Racers also have a solidity to them when engaging, and for me they're very > confidence-inspiring. I'm extremely happy with my Racers and would highly > recommend them (if you can find them). All the best, > > ~Mark > Raleigh, NC > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 4:55 PM Daniel MacPherson <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Are the Paul Racer brakes better? I’m tempted to buy the latest Crust road >> bike in the near future but I don’t want to run 559s or Mafacs. >> >> I know they’ve been discontinued but I’m sure over the next 6 months, a >> couple will pop-up on Ebay or the ibob community. >> >> Daniel M >> Tallahassee Fl >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:23 PM Josiah Anderson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I agree with Eric and others who find the 559s lacking in stopping power. >>> They're more or less good enough in dry conditions, but if it's wet, not so >>> much, and they're even worse in the snow. One of my scariest bike >>> experiences ever was on a 650b conversion of an old Trek with 559s (with >>> salmon pads), coming down a long hill with a busy intersection at the >>> bottom. It was raining, and having recently switched to the Tektros from >>> Mafac Racers, I was expecting my brakes to work, but they didn't. I went >>> through the intersection at probably 35mph, and I managed to make the turn >>> and somehow there were no cars, but it still freaked me out. The 559s don't >>> seem to be able to squeeze hard enough to create enough friction to dry off >>> wet rims in a revolution or two like most other (good) rim brakes do, so >>> they just keep skating on top of the layer of water. Same deal for ice, >>> although there are fewer brakes that do well with that. >>> >>> I've noticed that it seems like many of the people who like the 559s ride >>> in relatively dry places and many of us who regularly deal with wet and >>> freezing conditions find them inadequate. That's just my hypothesis on the >>> wide variety of opinions on these brakes; I know not everyone fits this >>> pattern. >>> >>> (Apologies if this post comes through late- I post frequently on IBOB but >>> not as much here so might not have Cyclofiend Jim's approval to post). >>> >>> Josiah Anderson >>> Missoula, MT >>> >>> Le lun. 11 juil. 2022 à 15:52, Cyclofiend Jim <[email protected]> a >>> écrit : >>>> I must ride a lot slower than all's y'all's... but I've honestly never had >>>> any trouble with my brakes on my AHH. I use the original standard Shimano >>>> Lever that shipped with it in aught-seven (probably discontinued) on a >>>> set of Noodle bars. They don't bottom out at full pressure and the wheel >>>> will skid. >>>> >>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc522-cyclofiend_jim0908.html >>>> >>>> - Jim >>>> >>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> Laing: Forgive me if you've posted some before, but if not, I'd be >>>>> delighted to see photos of your Riv custom "racing bike." 53.4 X 62?? >>>>> What sort of bar? Me, I fit almost the diametrical opposite: 60 X 56 c-c >>>>> for a drop-bar bike. >>>>> >>>>> To all: I've found this discussion interesting, both regarding braking >>>>> effectiveness and road bike aesthetics. I have to say that I myself would >>>>> prefer cantis or V brakes, or braze-on centerpulls instead of what appear >>>>> to me clunky very-long reach calipers on a "gofast" road bike if medium >>>>> reach calipers didn't work; and in fact, I've seen a number of custom or >>>>> high-end production road bikes from before WWII built for cantilever >>>>> brakes. I think a great many of these were on the Classics Rendezvous and >>>>> Classic Lightweights UK websites. >>>>> >>>>> IME, I tend to agree with those who say that almost all brakes work >>>>> decently, if not brilliantly, if properly set up, and if the levers are >>>>> appropriate to the brakes proper. I know that my otherwise wonderful >>>>> second-gen (? The tab-operated cam) Dura Ace single pivots worked badly, >>>>> even with salmons, pulled by 7410-era levers, while the single pivot >>>>> (high end DC? Superbe Pro?) 57 mm reach single pivot on the gofast pulled >>>>> by the same levers works very well indeed, for power and for modulation. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 10:34 AM lconley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Appearance was a large consideration when I selected the Rene Herse >>>>>> braze-on centerpull brakes for my Rivendell Custom that was intended as >>>>>> a road bike. I call it a fat man's racing bike. "Racing Bike" as in no >>>>>> braze-ons for racks, no fender eyelets, no holes in the "brake" or chain >>>>>> stay bridges, - clean stays and forks but a really long wheelbase. The >>>>>> long chainstays are balanced by the really long main triangle (62 cm ETT >>>>>> x 53.4 ST). What I did not realize was how large the Rene Herse brakes >>>>>> are, they dwarf my Mafac Competition , DiaCompe, and Weinmann >>>>>> centerpulls. But they still have that fifties - sixties racing bike >>>>>> look. The centerpull braze-ons are located between the rim and the fork >>>>>> crown/brake bridge, so they are a stiffer mount that >>>>>> cantilevers/V-brakes whose braze-ons are located below the rim. Another >>>>>> plus for the RH centerpulls is no black or plastic parts like the long >>>>>> reach Tektros. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have never actually seen another bike with braze-on centerpulls except >>>>>> in pictures - some in the book Japanese Steel. I have considered at >>>>>> times having Dia-Compe braze-ons installed on my Paramount for the >>>>>> original Weinmann centerpull brakes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laing >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 7:50:05 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote: >>>>>>> I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on >>>>>>> them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be >>>>>>> rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look >>>>>>> odd to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe >>>>>>> Rivendell should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tallahassee Fl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>>>> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is >>>>>>>> Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely >>>>>>>> associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We >>>>>>>> don't think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti >>>>>>>> posts it was a tourer or mtb, you couldn't sell it to folks looking >>>>>>>> for a road frame. >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/29d1c33e-5e78-4443-85cb-e34e68078086n%40googlegroups.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/U7xtMXIOtuM/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CADqZWjOWHfY-8czdAYuZRTziR77kGHnXJk_AtLBWXN4DRzbejg%40mail.gmail.com. >> -- >> Daniel MacPherson >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CADM3uSa7fqewTOO0YVtRCTfxFpAJVanXLuyZf_D0VOY23Oo8Dg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/U7xtMXIOtuM/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAD728njH92x9Z85rj6ZsHu1ZdyXbOzECW2JDfLm831Qm%2B-4uZQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- Daniel MacPherson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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