on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" direction. These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, but at the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. I used think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV.
I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a pound on a ~60 cm frame. Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in the full build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended towards stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, we're presented with a range of models, which you could think of as "limber" to "stout"... Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> Hunquapillar - > Bombadil My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they are both right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I like to do. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Three T-shirts Now Available: "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." S/S T-shirt Cyclocross - "More Cowbell" L/S T-shirt "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirt http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
