Khalid: I'm diving in here without reading any further posts, so forgive me if others make similar points.
First, I'll bet there is absolutely ZERO difference in quality between Toyo & Waterford frames. It's Rivendell's lugs & spec on the tubing. I'll speculate that Rivendell has sawed thru a lot of brazed joints to see what potential vendors produce, and that only the best are selected to produce frames. Second, only Riv could say whether there was a "run" on frames or not. But people in general have a fear of change so some fence sitters may have been motivated to buy, knowing Toyo's reputation. On a more general note, Waterford has been building frames for a long time and has an excellent reputation. I can't believe anyone could make them any better. FWIW, mine is an '03. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Waterford, and am willing to bet I couldn't tell the difference. Well, they get a kickstand plate now which I'd really like to have. dougP On Mar 20, 8:38 am, Khalid Mateen <krm2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese > atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones? Just curious. > When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo > plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last > batch of those frames. It is the steel? The craftmanship? > > Regards, > > K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.