Well.....   the original pads w/ my Tektro calipers for the Ram, once I 
pitched those black things (they were making a mess of my gumwalls), I 
switched to Koolstop salmons, and loved them.

But, these Pauls came with Koolstop salmons from the get-go, and I've still 
got some squealing.   So, I can't suggest trashing the dual-compound ones 
yet...    

I hope, I can do some more tweaking and get it to quiet down.   Maybe just 
break it in a bit more (no puns intended).




On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:39:40 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I am also getting a squel with the Koolstop dual compound, you think 
> the all salmon would be an improvement? Only issue is the damn things are 
> so expensive I cant see just trashing them....
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No worries on my part!   I'd not heard that regarding squeal and blade 
>> length... I thought it was my adjusting..  (still kinda think it is....).
>>
>> Mine's a 56cm, on 650B rims and tires, so it'll be shorter than yours, 
>> but... on a flat, I'd not heard it, but when I turn down my driveway, a bit 
>> more of a downhill, then the squeal comes out.....
>>
>> Hmmmmm............
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:26:16 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Phillip,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. I'm using Kool Stop MTB dual compound pads. Stop 
>>> OK, squeal like crazy! When they wear out, I will try cartridge pads, 
>>> salmon only. I sort of thought the shudder was a function of fork blade 
>>> length vs. cantilever geometry, rather than the pads.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> P.S. Sorry about the thread hijack.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:01:44 UTC+11, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (beautiful bike!) 
>>>> I had a hate/hate relationship with the Tektro CR720s until I bought 
>>>> the Yokozuna pads from Rivendell. Now they stop well, don't shudder, 
>>>> and I just don't think about them. I put it off because I got the 
>>>> wrong ones (the mountain pads) the first time, and didn't want to pay 
>>>> as much for shipping as for the pads. I don't buy that much (my garage 
>>>> is full of STUFF), and my wife gets me most of my Riv kit for 
>>>> presents. So, Xmas stocking, pad replacement, happy 2012 so far. 
>>>> I just checked, and I did call out the Yokozunas specifically in my 
>>>> Spring Inventory of the Quickbeam: 
>>>> http://www.biketinker.com/**2012/fine-bikes/state-of-the-**
>>>> quickbeam-3-3-12/<http://www.biketinker.com/2012/fine-bikes/state-of-the-quickbeam-3-3-12/>
>>>>  
>>>> I wanted to make sure, since they did make a big difference. Still 
>>>> bugs me that it takes a whole separate product from a whole separate 
>>>> company to make an acceptable brake, but I guess that's the upside of 
>>>> being "in the know." 
>>>>
>>>> If you already have the red pads, just ignore everything I just 
>>>> said... 
>>>>  Philip 
>>>>
>>>> Philip Williamson 
>>>> www.biketinker.com 
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 14, 6:40 pm, Tom Harrop <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>> > Hey, another tentacular Bombadil! No wonder you found mine so quick. 
>>>> It 
>>>> > looks great, I love the orange. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > What brakes are you using? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts, 
>>>> because 
>>>> > I'm not 100 percent convinced by the CR720s on my Bombadil. I don't 
>>>> feel 
>>>> > like I'm getting enough advantage—e.g. can't lock the rear wheel 
>>>> above 10 
>>>> > km/h. I also get a bit of fork shudder. It may just be a weight 
>>>> thing, 
>>>> > though.
>>>
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