So could I use this to make my alfine hub a 16 speed setup?  I am only wary
of the way that the gear cable has to be routed around the plastic
anti-turn unit. I think if i had this setup I would fashion a small groove
in the top so the cable cout run over it rather than under. But that is
just my OCD acting up again.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I heard back from Sam Patterson... One of his testers has logged 5000
> miles on the Metropolis using a fixed cog... but I was surprised to
> discover the Patterson Transmission actually freewheels; it doesn't engage
> like a typical fixie.  He said you CAN ride it with a freewheel or fixed
> gear, but generally recommends a freewheel (I suppose to put the wear on
> the pawls of a less-expensive hub freewheel).
>
> So for those looking for their multi-speed fixie fix, look elsewhere.
>  Still, I'm really impressed with this crankset.  BTW Sam Patterson was the
> inventor of the SRAM GripShifter (of which I remain a huge devotee), and he
> is still inventing new innovations for the cycling world... certainly a man
> to watch.
>
> Peace,
> BB
>
>
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 7:50:45 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>
>> Philip:
>>
>> I'm curious... When you're flying along at a pretty good clip (in 3rd
>> gear, fixie mode) and you're wheel is spinning at, say 120+ rpm, and you
>> downshift to second gear, does your cadence abruptly accelerate to the
>> point of wanting to toss you over the bars, or is it relatively smooth?  I
>> would think that might put an awful strain on the internal gearing...
>> What's it like?  (I submitted a question to Sam Patterson, developer of the
>> Metropolis crankset, asking whether I can ride it in fixie mode... haven't
>> received his reply yet.)
>>
>> BB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 15, 2012 7:13:49 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> I have an S3X wheel that's about to go back into service. I like it. You
>>> can also slide two splined cogs on for a dingle setup on the 3sp fixed IGH.
>>> Conceivably you could have a low range and a high range. I had that setup,
>>> but changed out the cranks before I actually used the low gear range.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reminding me, I think I may set that up this time around
>>> again. I may be in the market for an inexpensive double crankset, then...
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 15, 2012 11:25:49 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried the S3X yet, but it sure looks like a cool idea.  I run
>>>> a flip-flop hub, so with the Metropolis I can have a choice of FW or Fixed
>>>> (pretty much on-demand), as long as I carry my 15mm wrench for the rear
>>>> wheel nut.
>>>>
>>>> Eric, you can slightly feel the gears working in high gear (a kind of
>>>> ratchety feel; not necessarily fragile, but... different). I still have an
>>>> innate fear of destroying the innerds of my IG hubs... something I probably
>>>> need to get over... I haven't really stomped on the pedals yet. FSA
>>>> warrants the crankset for 2 years, but apparently not for mountain bike
>>>> use. (Don't know whether it's due to the extra gunk or extra stress). Only
>>>> time will tell.
>>>>
>>>> BB
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 15, 2012 12:18:45 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Forgot to add as usual: you can thread either a fixed cog or a
>>>>> freewheel onto the hub driver, so it also gives you a choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > What's wrong with this? http://www.sturmey-archer.com/**
>>>>> products/hubs/cid/3/id/47<http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/3/id/47>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Colin Bortner <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Awesome!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If the FSA doesn't work out fixed, but you fall in love with the
>>>>> idea
>>>>> >> of a two-speed fixed-gear, Schlumpf's cranks were redesigned a few
>>>>> >> years ago to be fixed-gear compatible:
>>>>> >> http://www.haberstock-**mobility.com/en/products/**
>>>>> schlumpf-drive.html<http://www.haberstock-mobility.com/en/products/schlumpf-drive.html>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Overview Schlumpf-for-fixed from German Bedovelo:
>>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=QHeVme8Bmgc<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHeVme8Bmgc>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Looking forward to updates on the Metropolis!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Montclair BobbyB
>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>> Yes, I'm seriously considering it... although I wonder whether it
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>> trash the internals... (but in the name of science, I feel it's my
>>>>> >>> obligation to try...)  BB
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:02:08 AM UTC-4, David Spranger
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Nice! I got two speeds out of my SimpleOne by using a SRAM
>>>>> Automatix 2
>>>>> >>>> speed hub with which I have been very satisfied at approximately
>>>>> 6000 mostly
>>>>> >>>> commuting miles. Your solution has one distinct advantage in that
>>>>> you could
>>>>> >>>> do a two speed fixed gear if you wished.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> David
>>>>> >>>> Charlotte, NC
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