I would be very interested in learning more about how position, rider
size and weight, tire width and pressure, and for that matter pedaling
style affect handling for a given geometry. My wandering problem on
the Sam was with heavy rear load and nothing in front; and my favored
position is rearward biased.

Interesting ...

One of the best rear load bikes I had was that Motobecane with very
light 531 tubing and long stays -- better than other bikes with
equally long stays and stouter tubing. It's all very odd. This even
pushing the limit for the Tubus Fly rack.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM, dougP <[email protected]> wrote:IMHO,
discussions regarding trail, shimmy, loading, handling, etc., often
ignore the rider input factor.  Our position on the bike, pedaling
style, tires & pressure, etc., must have a significant influence.
Generally even a lightweight rider outweighs the bike, even loaded for
a camping tour.

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