I love my Pelican, Ebisu, and Nobilette low-trail bikes.  It works.

I love my Rivs - mid-trail.  Totally works, too!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/8258743340/

Frame design is more than trail. Grant's is a complete package - and has 
always, in my experience, held the qualities of stability, predictability, 
solidity, and high-class.  

On Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:23:47 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I would be very interested in learning more about how position, rider 
> size and weight, tire width and pressure, and for that matter pedaling 
> style affect handling for a given geometry. My wandering problem on 
> the Sam was with heavy rear load and nothing in front; and my favored 
> position is rearward biased. 
>
> Interesting ... 
>
> One of the best rear load bikes I had was that Motobecane with very 
> light 531 tubing and long stays -- better than other bikes with 
> equally long stays and stouter tubing. It's all very odd. This even 
> pushing the limit for the Tubus Fly rack. 
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM, dougP <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:IMHO, 
> discussions regarding trail, shimmy, loading, handling, etc., often 
> ignore the rider input factor.  Our position on the bike, pedaling 
> style, tires & pressure, etc., must have a significant influence. 
> Generally even a lightweight rider outweighs the bike, even loaded for 
> a camping tour. 
>

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