I have not climbed or hiked in Scotland, but the people I talked with about the Grampians have told me it is a beautiful and difficult place. The high latitude (think northern Canada) combined with winds from Atlantic depressions makes for a difficult climate. That said, I want to get to the West Highland trail with the Hunqapillar! Be well - Bob
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote: > Is Scotland's weather so unique a combination of cold and wet that > experienced climbers would not normally encounter similar conditions a > myriad of other places? Is seems to me the Scots are unique in the > ingenuity of their solution more than their weather. Of course I'm guilty > of being a likely too proud Scot, I am biased toward Scottish genius. Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Monday, July 15, 2013 8:15:33 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote: > >> In the 90s Americans climbing in Scotland were frustrated with their >> mountaineering gear made for cold dry conditions. They were getting >> drenched with sweat during exertion and then freezing when they slowed >> down, They noticed that the Scottish climbers were using a very different >> clothing system for their unique climate. Instead of bomb-proof waterproof >> fabrics they went with a highly breathable exterior fabric and a wicking >> pile on the interior. The "Scottish system" was much discussed in the late >> 90s because it was counter to all the major trends of waterproof and seam >> sealed. I know that much of the story because my all time favorite jacket >> for strenuous activities in cold wet weather is a Patagonia Infurno, which >> was Patagonia's take on the Scottish system. Sounds like from Deacon's note >> that he finds the system good for cool to cold and wet riding. I do as >> well. Grant was working on a Ventile jacket. I remember at least one >> picture of him wearing a trial version. I don't know if the project >> continues. >> >> For hot and humid with rain I wear shorts and seersucker or a wicking >> t-shirt. >> >> Bob (Indianapolis) >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> For 70+˚F and high humidity with rain, I would wear shorts and t-shirt. >>> Colorado's mountains don't get that combo. Storms drop us to 50-60 or >>> lower. So we may start out at 80, but cool down fast with the storm. >>> Scotland has used boiled, lanolined wool for hundreds of years at least for >>> cold/wet combo. >>> >>> With abandon, >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:36:07 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: >>>> >>>> It is in the 80's - 100's here in MD with high humidity in the summer. >>>>> >>>> I am basically drenched in sweat when riding until fall, when it gets >>>> back into the 50's. So I think that means no breatheable stuff will matter >>>> in those conditions of summer. >>>> >>>> It was around 100 I think on Saturday when I got caught in a shower. >>>> But I didn't want to ride under my poncho because I was already boiling >>>> over, and the plastic would have made matters worse I think. >>>> >>>> I wonder what people did back in the day before all the technology for >>>> breatheable stuff we have now? >>>> >>>> I guess just got sweaty. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. >>> >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
