Are you sure it's not the solenoid that's causing your problems?

-Gregory

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Modena <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I just tried seperating the PSU's, powering the logic and SSR off a 6v
> and the solenoid totally seperate off 12v, same issue, switches on and
> stays on.
>
> basically the whole thing was connected to a 6v battery, one lead of
> the solenoid went to + of a 12v battery, the other solenoid wire went
> to a load pin on the SSR, the other load pin went to - on the 12v
> battery.
>
> when it stays on, the relay is NOT powered at the input, yet it still
> makes a load circuit, WTF ? how can this happen?
>
> driving an LED off the same terminals as the SSR input and the LED
> blinks as expected for the time delay and then switches off, so the
> 555 seems to be doing its thing; press button, LED comes on, solenoid
> switches on, time delay expires LED goes off, solenoid stays on, SSR
> load circuit stays complete
>
> I'm confused
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 11:51 am, Mike Mane <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I might as well ask an electrical question myself. What is the
> > cheapest (or at least simplest) way to reduce the main tank's voltage
> > X volts to power small, intricate IC's, etc on a circuit that require
> > <X volts? Is there any way to reduce voltage like this without harming
> > the circuit or messing up the battery? Is resistance the answer?
> >
> > —Mike "not the electrician" Måne
> >
> > Message sent by way of mobile device
> >
> > On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Don Shankin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Good call, just be careful around those caps
> >
> > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Gregory Pwneror
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > If you need to find a MOSFET look inside an old computer power
> > > supply, they usually have half a dozen of them inside. They also
> > > have 1600uf capacitors :)
> >
> > > -Gregory
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Frank Pittelli <
> [email protected]
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > Don Shankin wrote:
> > > > Are you talking about MOSFETs?  They're essentially voltage-
> > > controlled
> > > > transistors (as opposed to being current controlled).
> >
> > > Yes, there is a new breed of MOSFETs called "self-protected MOSFETs"
> > > that are specifically designed to be driven from logic levels and that
> > > protect against all kinds of problems.  For example, see:
> >
> > >        http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/parametrics.do?id=819
> >
> > > The last time I looked (about 6 months ago), they only produced them
> > > in
> > > tiny surface mount packages (which are too small for my eyes and
> > > soldering skills :-)  However, while googling to answer this
> > > question, I
> > > see that they are now producing them in good old TO-220 packages, so
> > > I'll have to see if my normal electronics suppliers stock them as
> > > well.
> >
> > > The nice thing about this new breed is that (a) they are designed for
> > > logic level inputs, (b) they protect the logic circuit from load
> > > problems and (c) they don't need suppression diodes when used with
> > > inductive loads.  Basically, they are a one package solution for
> > > switching 4-6A loads.   When I start noodling with circuit designs in
> > > the winter (the official season for circuit noodling) I plan on
> > > playing
> > > with them to see how well they work for my purposes (cheap, durable,
> > > easy to repair).
> >
> > >        Frank P.
> >
> > > --
> > > ----------
> > > Donald Shankin
> > > Computer Engineering Undergrad
> > > Blue Marble Security Member
> > > IEEE Vice Chair, MTU Chapter
> > > NSBE Telecommunications Chair, MTU Chapter
> > > CAEL Partner
> > > (507) 301-2499
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> > > [email protected]
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> >
>

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