Hm, now I'm getting confused.
2.4.2.4 applies to "a statement of responsibility relating to title
proper [that] appears on the source of information in more than one
language".
But the scope statement to 2.4.3 defines "parallel statement of
responsibility" as "a statement of responsibility relating to title
proper (see 2.4.2.1) in a language and/or script that differs from
that recorded in the statement of responsibility relating to title
proper element".
Is it just me, or do they seem to be talking about the same thing?
Or is 2.4.3ff limited to cases where you already have parallel titles
AND parallel s-o-r's? (On a closer look, it's not--2.4.3.2 says, "If
there is no corresponding parallel title proper, take parallel
statements of responsibility relating to title proper from the same
source as the title proper" so clearly it also applies to situations
where there is no parallel title proper, only parallel statements of
responsibility.)
So, what's going on here??
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
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MIT Libraries
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*If you have a single title proper and statements of responsibility in
multiple languages, I think 2.4.2.4. applies: "*If a statement of
responsibility relating to title proper appears on the source of
information in more than one language or script, record the statement
in the language or script of the title proper. If this criterion does
not apply, record the statement that appears first." The examples are
helpful.
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No parallel title, just the s-o-r's. And certainly the "mit" should
not be capitalized (and isn't on the piece) that was my mistake.
I don't know if there's a character limit in OCLC or not. But there is
a character limit to my brain, so I'm going to use the optional
omission. :)
Thanks,
Ben
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I'm afraid so, only I think it should start with "mit" instead of
"Mit" ("mit" being a preposition which is not ordinarily capitalized).
What a lovely example - I'm thrilled ;-)
If you really were to transcribe all the 89 names (not once, but
twice), I wonder whether there might be technical problems with the
maximum field length for 245. Or is there no such limit in American
library systems? I know that in Germany there are library systems
which - at least at the moment - wouldn't be able to cope with
statements this long.
Deborah is right about keeping together statements in the same
language according to ISBD. Is there also a parallel title? Then it
would look marginally nicer:
Title proper : other title information / mit Beiträgen von Fernando
Aguiar [and 88 others] ; hg. von X = Parallel title proper : parallel
other title information / with contributions by Fernando Aguiar [and
88 others] ; ed. by X
Heidrun
On 01.04.2013 20:17, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
It makes sense, but it's actually the outcome I was hoping to
avoid as this also happens to be a t.p. with an extensive list of
contributors (over 80 of them) on the t.p. (And yes, the
abbreviations are on the source.)
So it would end up looking like this:
Mit Beiträgen von Fernando Aguiar [and eighty-eight others] = with
contributions by Fernando Aguiar [and eighty-eight others]
??
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
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MIT Libraries
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*Heidrun Wiesenmüller
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Ben,
I think the "/" should indeed be replaced by a "=" according to
1.7.3, as it obviously is a case of parallel statements of
responsibility (i.e. two different RDA elements). But I'd find it
odd to have only "Mit Beiträgen von" as one of these statements of
responsibility. As this is only an introductory phrase, it somehow
seems to miss the point.
I wonder if we could solve this problem by making use of RDA 1.7.7
"Lettersor Words Intended to Be Read More Than Once": "If a letter
or word appears only once but the design of the source of
information makes it clear that it is intended to be read more
than once, repeat the letter or word."
Perhaps we could argue that on these title pages, the names are
intended to be read twice, once with the German introductory
phrase, and a second time with the English introductory phrase.
Then you'd have:
mit Beiträgen von X, Y, Z = with contributions by X, Y, Z ; hg.
von A = ed. by A
Does that make sense?
Heidrun
On 01.04.2013 19:36, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
When a resource has parallel statements of responsibility on
its chief source of information, but only the "connecting
words" are parallel, not the names themselves, how does one
treat this under RDA?
E.g., what I see on the t.p.:
Mit Beiträgen von/With contributions by ...
hg. von/ed. by ...
Is simply transcribing what I see enough, or should the "/" be
replaced with " = "?
Mit Beiträgen von = With contributions by ... ; hg. von = ed.
by ....
Thanks,
Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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