Who does the removing? In our workflow, LC copy goes through a quick cataloging process in Acquisitions & Rapic Cataloging Division, and never sees the eyes of complex copy or original cataloger. That is, most of these records are processed either by machine or by student workers. Do you go back and find them later and delete them? In any case, that would not work for us because our catalog records are based on the master record in OCLC and whatever is there is the data that comes into our shared consortial catalog. Any changes made by anyone in OCLC to a record we have holdings on will be propagated into our consortial catalog, so to get rid of CCTs we'd have to delete them in the OCLC master record, and should someone put them back in, we'd get them right back.

Adam Schiff
University of Washington Libraries

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, Adger Williams wrote:

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:37:18 -0500
From: Adger Williams <awilli...@colgate.edu>
Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
    <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective
    titles

Aren't conventional collective titles really Form/Genre headings?  (Poems.
Selections, vs. Essays Selections, vs. Works Selections)

Would they not serve their function less confusingly if we treated them
that way?

FWIW, my institution has been removed CCTs from LC records ever since the
abandonment of the AACR2 rule about "distinctive titles".  Very seldom does
it require more than a moment's thought.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bernhard Eversberg <e...@biblio.tu-bs.de>wrote:

Am 20.12.2013 13:37, schrieb Heidrun Wiesenm?ller:


I think the interesting point to note is that not everything which
consists of several works by the same person is in fact a "compilation
of works". Rather, in the case of...


This is the sort of casuistry we've never envied AACR users for.
Let's get serious about the A aspect in RDA and treat titles as
such, as titles, always, because end-users will always search for
those titles because they find them cited as such, and noch
concocted and perturbed in ways they'd never imagine.
Add conventional collected titles at leisure (if you find any),
or rather use machine-actionable codes wherever possible, but leave the
titles alone.

If we can't get away from the old spirit of cataloging that was
based on unit descriptions on 3x5 cards and on filing rules that were
not even part of AACR, then RDA is really a waste of time and will
create more nuisance than usefulness.

B.Eversberg


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