What could be simpler?

For some reason I can't help think of the Great Leap Forward in Chine where Mao had all the peasants gathering up all the iron objects and melting them down in small furnaces to help increase steel production. Of course none of the "steel" was any good.

I guess it is because here I see a bunch of great industrial control equipment stuffed into a tiny box and dropped in someones basement. That's alot of stuff waiting to break or hang up or reset or something.

I really have to wonder what the operating state of this piece of equipment will be in 3 years and if still operational, how many person-hours of support and maintenance will have been expended.

Mark Frye

On 6/18/2016 4:48 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
Here's the internals of the one we installed.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0ie2tuqe7y1x9d/2016-06-15%2011.01.43.jpg?dl=0
It's a Radian, the batteries are Sony, there's a PLC in the door controlling everything, and a Vera Z-Wave controller for the programmable outlets. The BMS is on the door, connected by the long cable you see at the bottom. It's not really long enough, which I complained about. The transfer switch is a Generac component, very reliable unit, rated at 200A. There is a DIN rail next to the inverter that holds all the internal wiring, metering, external connections. One thing I would advocate, never try to make any connections with this unit powered up. It is very tight in there and the risk of touching a live terminal is high. There is a 200A main breaker and a battery breaker, which is software controlled for powering down from the front panel. Startup requires holding in a DC breaker for the electronics for a few seconds then engaging the main battery breaker. The instructions says five seconds but I find it takes about 15.




On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Gary Willett <g...@icarussolarservices.com <mailto:g...@icarussolarservices.com>> wrote:

    Enclosed is a photo of what appears to be a test/lab Sonnen system
    published in the 01/30/2016 edition of "Power Magazine.

    Can plainly see the 8kW Outback Radian inverter and I assume four
    12V Sonnen (Sony?) 8kWh Lithium-Ion batteries. Assume this is a
    "standard" 48V Radian inverter.

    
http://www.powermag.com/german-battery-firm-sonnen-moves-into-u-s-home-solar-storage-market/

    Regards,

    Gary Willett

    Icarus Engineering LLC



    On 6/17/16 2:09 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
    Yes, correct on both. The generator support is there, I did not
    use it.

    On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Carl Adams
    <swingjun...@gmail.com <mailto:swingjun...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Chris,

        Nice finish on the Sonnen install.  It looks fabulous.  My
        understanding is the Eco 2-8 integrate the 4kW radian, and
        the 10-16 incorporates the 8kW radian.  I assume generator
        support is fully supported

        On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Chris Mason
        <cometenergysyst...@gmail.com
        <mailto:cometenergysyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I promised a picture of the Sonnen installation. As these
            units are getting close to being appliances in the same
            vein as home audio, we wanted to have a clean finish so
            we made some mill work to complete the top of the unit to
            the ceiling and hide the ugly conduits.
            
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlh0uumlgf5549g/2016-06-15%2011.00.44-1.jpg?dl=0



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