> For example, if I install Apache, and screw it up, I could well break > everything and have 42 site owners all yelling at me. My notebook > might be the dev environment, but it's also the heart of my business > and the main tool for earning my living. >
Fair point, but it's easy to run Apache on a different port, so it won't affect IIS or any of your old sites running on it. That's what I do and I haven't had any problems. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Kear > Sent: 16 April 2006 18:30 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Reactor For CF] Problems with configuring reactor for shared > environment > > I'm not ignoring anything or anyone. I'm willing to be flexible. I > know i'm in a corner. > > But i have a system thats pretty busy. My experience over the last 31 > years of being in the IT business is that it is folly to make systemic > changes to a system thats working well unless you have thought through > all the options. > > I have 42 web sites in dev on this machine. To change how they all > work is not a trivial matter. I will probably have to change them but > it is going to take some planning and thought before i do it. I've a > living to earn along the way and obligations to clients to meet. > > I'm NOT bitching. I was undiplomatic at the start. Yes. And I'm > sorry for that. And I DO want to fix the problem. If i didn't I'd have > just said to myself "reactor stinks" and left it at that. And i'd > have been wrong. > > I think some of you need to realise that there is delay on a list > between writing something and seeing the reply. I'll be writing > something here and when I click "Send" there's another 5 people all > saying the same thing I just replied to. That doesnt mean I ignored > them. All it means is their emails hadnt arrived on this list by the > time I wrote. > > Doug you might not care how I set up my environment. Thats ok thats > entirely up to you. But as the last few messages in this thread show, > there are a lot of people with the same set up I have. And it would > be in your interests, and in the interests of fledgling Reactor users > like myself to have some kind of documentation of this issue and how > to get around it. LOTS and LOTS of developers build sites the same > way I do, especially the road warriors and one-man shops like mine. I > didnt make up this way to set it up i was shown how to do it early on > in my coldfusion career by an experienced coldfusion developer. > > Jared, you wrote : "I'm sorry that you feel it necessary to bite the > hand that types helpful emails to you. Going off on Reactor, "people > who write software for > CF", and anyone other than the person who's causing the problem, > isn't helpful." > > I dont recall "going off" on anyone. I was undiplomatic at first, and > i've already apologised for that 5 times now. I dont know how I can > correct someone mis-quoting me, or saying things that make me look > incompetent or foolish if when i do so I'm perceived as being rude and > insulting. If you or anyone else interprets my words as insulting > or rude, thats your interpretation not mine. I depend on this list > and others like it and never want to offend people. If you think i'm > being offensive you're reading it wrongly. > > Believe me, if I wanted to be insulting, there would be absolultely no > doubt about it. I would be VERY agressive in that case. But i learned > long ago that you never achieve anything by doing that. Not in email > anyway. > > Perhaps its the way we Australians are. We are often thought of by > non-Australians as blunt and rude, but its just that we (well "I" > anyway ) are. I tend to speak my mind plainly and straightforward > without the niceties of so-called "polite language". I mean no > offence to anyone - really. And if anyone's taken offence, I'm sorry > but i really didnt mean it that way. I just call a spade a bloody > shovel because normally it saves a lot of time. In this case it > seems to have taken up a vast amount of time instead. > > > And lastly, Jared, I'm not sure why you feel I'm not listening to you. > I'm supposing thats what you mean by "If that's not enough, then so be > it.". I am extremely grateful for the suggestions (but not the > criticisms) that everyone's given. There are several options I have > to consider, and with 42 sites to rebuild or reorganise in one way or > another, and a full schedule of work I'm committed to, I'm going to > have to think about the implications of any changes before I do them, > and for safety's sake, make sure that if something goes wrong with the > changes, that i have the time free to fix it without affecting my > ability to meet my deadlines.. > > For example, if I install Apache, and screw it up, I could well break > everything and have 42 site owners all yelling at me. My notebook > might be the dev environment, but it's also the heart of my business > and the main tool for earning my living. > > You guys surely dont get a new version of windows land on your desk > and immediately go to your main server and start upgrading . .. do > you? surely you think about it a little first, and do some > contingency planning and testing and work out the best time to do it. > Dont you? > > Thanks for your suggestions too Doug I'll have a thnk about what to do. > > Now i think its time for bed, since it's 3.30am and I'm getting pretty > tired. And I'm pretty sure the rest of you are bored to sobs with > this whole issue. > > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > > > > > > On 4/17/06, Doug Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're not willing to be flexible then we can't help you. I don't > care > > how you set up your development environment. We're all trying to show > you > > how it could work, but you're ignoring it. If you don't want to fix the > > problem then stop bitching about it. Move on and do it the old > fashioned > > way. > > > > For the record, you could use IIS admin to create 42 different iis > entries > > in iis 5.1 and then you wouldn't need to worry about this mubmo jumbo. > It's > > your choice not to and you suffer the consequences. > > > > The concept that Reactor should somehow compensate for your technique of > > using application variables (which reactor should be agnostic to) is > > offensive. > > > > Here's a 30 second solution to your problem: > > > > 1) create a mapping on your dev cf server pointing to reactor. > > > > 2) when you move the site to production place reactor under your > webroot. > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > -- Reactor for ColdFusion Mailing List -- [email protected] > -- Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/reactor%40doughughes.net/ > -- Reactor for ColdFusion Mailing List -- [email protected] -- Archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/reactor%40doughughes.net/
