On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Mike Woodworth wrote:


On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Joseph Nastasi wrote:


On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Norman Palardy wrote:

But I'd take stable, relatively bug free runtimes first

A-friggin'-men!

while i agree with this on principle... and far more now than i did before the rapid release cycle... most of the bugs i've found can with work be worked around. no matter what, i hit a point where i can't speed up my rb app any more, short of jumping into RB.

i bet there are as many apps not getting written in RB because of speed as there are because of bugs. certainly when you factor in people not using RB because of a perception of it's slowness. I think it's going to take a lot of work to change this perception... it's something I fight against tooth and nail.

I have no metric to base an opinion on, only my experience, but the perceived slowness likely is on par with perceived bugginess.

For the things I'm doing speed is less of a concern as most time is spent waiting for user input than most anything. I've never had to skip a release because of slowness but I have had to skip using certain releases because of bugs in the frameworks and forgo using any of the new features those releases had. So even if there had been speed improvements in a new releases, I'd not see them because of the bugs that affect me and mean I can't use the release.

Undoubtedly, both issues are important for different audiences for different reasons.

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