Nick Carfardo thinks we should trade Westmoreland. So I agree with Steve.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > Actually, that has him as a minus-9, which is quite a bit below average. > Other fielding metrics had him even worse, though the two prior seasons that > he was a little above average. Seems hard to believe, but the explanation > I've heard is that he is terrible at balls hit right at him; very slow to > react coming in or going back. He also apparently started playing abnormally > deep, allowing a lot of balls to fall in. > > He's got the tools to be outstanding, but don't know if you can teach > instincts. > > I'm OK with trading Casey Kelly, but I don't want to deal Ryan > Westmoreland. Ever. > > Steve O > > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ellsbury was slightly below average in fielding in 2009: >> >> >> http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/ellsbja01-field.shtml#standard_fielding >> >> He was so close to average that I wouldn't say he cost us anything >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I was surprised yesterday when Sean McAdam and Steve Buckley knocked >>> Ellsbury's defense. He's made some exciting plays, but perhaps he's not >>> strong day-to-day? >>> >>> Bucholz/Ellsbury does sound like a lot, but I'm about the team. If Theo >>> can fill the hole in LF I'm all for the deal. >>> >>> BTW, you're all free to throw these words back at me in a couple of >>> years. But Casey Kelly better be a damn good ballplayer if he's that >>> untouchable. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If dealing those two gets a power-hitting first baseman just coming >>>> into his prime, I can live with it. Ellsbury's OBP is in the lower third of >>>> major-league leadoff hitters and he doesn't provide a ton of power. I like >>>> the kid and I like what he brings, but I think the upgrade to Gonzalez is >>>> worth it, especially given that Mike Cameron can play center field. >>>> >>>> Any chance they make the deal for Gonzalez, who's on a very >>>> club-friendly deal at the moment, and still sign Bay to play left? That >>>> team >>>> would stack up very favorably against the Yankees. It's also feasible >>>> payroll-wise because a lot of money is coming off the books the next two >>>> years. >>>> >>>> -- Matt >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Steve Gendron <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* "[email protected]" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thu, December 17, 2009 11:03:54 AM >>>> *Subject:* Dealing Ellsbury? >>>> >>>> Talk is that the Red Sox would have to deal both Clay Bucholz AND Jacoby >>>> Ellsbury to land Adrian Gonzalez. 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