That's been established. What about going up and onto the field of play?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ortiz HR Down. Not a HR. On 5/20/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, why do we have to do this? > > You approach it as if you're right and there is no other possibility > than you being right. > > > > Let's look at ideal conditions, Mr. Physics. > > > > There is an edge. It is a line in space. It defines the border between > the face of the wall and the top of the wall. It is not the top of the > wall. > > There is a ball assumed to be a perfect sphere with an even distribution > of mass throughout. > > Now, if the ball is traveling at a given velocity, v, and at an angle of > 0 degrees (straight), and the point of contact is below the center of > gravity, but less than 45 degrees below the center of gravity, then what > direction will the ball travel, HAVING NEVER HIT THE TOP OF THE WALL? > Upward, I will bet. And, being less than 45 degrees, it will come back > onto the field. Being more than 45 degrees, it will continue over the > wall. > > > > That is from what I derive my opinion and my interpretation of the > rules. Not just, well I said so; so I'm right. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > > > Sorry John. Geometry is not a matter of opinion. > > A ball that goes up touched the top of the wall. > > Home run. > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Beaudoin, John > <[email protected]> wrote: > > No. It is your opinion that it is a home run. It is your > interpretation of the rules. It does not make you right just because > you say you are right. > > The last time you provided the prose from the rule book, we went through > the same thing. > > > > If a ball hits the edge of the wall that defines the border between what > is the top and what is the face of the wall, then we are in no-mans land > in debate. And my opinion is that if the ball hits the edge and goes > forward, then it is still in play. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > > > Again, there is no "edge". If the ball touches the top, it is out. > When it touches the top it goes up. > > Your "up ten feet and then fall one inch straight down onto the field" > is a home run. > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Beaudoin, John > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Because a ball can hit the edge and go up. The question should be > whether or not the ball hit the edge and went forward or backward. Thus, > a ball can hit the edge, then go up ten feet, and then fall one inch > straight down onto the field and still be in play. > > I did not see this specific HOUR. I am guessing that it was past the > edge and hit something behind the wall plane and came back onto the > field. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu May 20 04:09:47 2010 > Subject: Ortiz HR > > Thank goodness they took the HR call away from the umps. They seem to > consistently miss that call. > > > > Why is it so hard to understand that a ball that bounces straight up hit > the top of the wall? > > > > Ray > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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