Dang, now I am going to have to get my copy of Flatland out.....

 Dan D
Central NJ USA






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From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 11:36:01 AM
Subject: RE: Ortiz HR

 
Okay, why do we have to do this?
You approach it as if you’re right
and there is no other possibility than you being right.
 
Let’s look at ideal conditions, Mr. Physics.
 
There is an edge.  It is a line in
space.  It defines the border between the face of the wall and the top of
the wall.  It is not the top of the wall.
There is a ball assumed to be a perfect
sphere with an even distribution of mass throughout.
Now, if the ball is traveling at a given
velocity, v, and at an angle of 0 degrees (straight), and the point of contact
is below the center of gravity, but less than 45 degrees below the center of
gravity, then what direction will the ball travel, HAVING NEVER HIT THE TOP OF
THE WALL?  Upward, I will bet.  And, being less than 45 degrees, it
will come back onto the field.  Being more than 45 degrees, it will
continue over the wall.
 
That is from what I derive my opinion and
my interpretation of the rules.  Not just, well I said so; so I’m
right.
 

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From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:21
AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ortiz HR
 
Sorry John. 
Geometry is not a matter of opinion.

A ball that goes up touched the top of the wall.

Home run.


On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> 
wrote:
No.  It is your opinion that it is a home run.  It is
your interpretation of the rules.  It does not make you right just because
you say you are right.
The last time you provided the prose from the rule book, we went
through the same thing.
 
If a ball hits the edge of the wall that defines the border between
what is the top and what is the face of the wall, then we are in no-mans land
in debate.  And my opinion is that if the ball hits the edge and goes
forward, then it is still in play.
 

________________________________
 
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:15
AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ortiz HR
 
Again, there is no
"edge".  If the ball touches the top, it is out.  When it
touches the top it goes up.  

Your "up ten feet and then fall one inch straight down onto the
field" is a home run.


On Thu, May 20,
2010 at 8:15 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Because a ball can hit the edge and go up. The question should be
whether or not the ball hit the edge and went forward or backward. Thus, a ball
can hit the edge, then go up ten feet, and then fall one inch straight down
onto the field and still be in play.

I did not see this specific HOUR. I am guessing that it was past the edge and
hit something behind the wall plane and came back onto the field.
 

________________________________
 
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thu May 20 04:09:47 2010
Subject: Ortiz HR 
Thank goodness
they took the HR call away from the umps.  They seem to consistently miss
that call.
 
Why is it so hard
to understand that a ball that bounces straight up hit the top of the wall?
 
Ray

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