Which means Dan there are WHOLE other conversations happening that we
are not privy so you can thankfully respect the ones we are... :-)
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On May 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, "Beaudoin, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Ray and I work in the same office, Dan. Just FYI. J
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ortiz HR
Dang, now I am going to have to get my copy of Flatland out.....
Dan D
Central NJ USA
From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 11:36:01 AM
Subject: RE: Ortiz HR
Okay, why do we have to do this?
You approach it as if you’re right and there is no other possibility
than you being right.
Let’s look at ideal conditions, Mr. Physics.
There is an edge. It is a line in space. It defines the border
between the face of the wall and the top of the wall. It is not the
top of the wall.
There is a ball assumed to be a perfect sphere with an even
distribution of mass throughout.
Now, if the ball is traveling at a given velocity, v, and at an
angle of 0 degrees (straight), and the point of contact is below the
center of gravity, but less than 45 degrees below the center of
gravity, then what direction will the ball travel, HAVING NEVER HIT
THE TOP OF THE WALL? Upward, I will bet. And, being less than 45
degrees, it will come back onto the field. Being more than 45
degrees, it will continue over the wall.
That is from what I derive my opinion and my interpretation of the
rules. Not just, well I said so; so I’m right.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ortiz HR
Sorry John. Geometry is not a matter of opinion.
A ball that goes up touched the top of the wall.
Home run.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]
> wrote:
No. It is your opinion that it is a home run. It is your
interpretation of the rules. It does not make you right just
because you say you are right.
The last time you provided the prose from the rule book, we went
through the same thing.
If a ball hits the edge of the wall that defines the border between
what is the top and what is the face of the wall, then we are in no-
mans land in debate. And my opinion is that if the ball hits the
edge and goes forward, then it is still in play.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ortiz HR
Again, there is no "edge". If the ball touches the top, it is out.
When it touches the top it goes up.
Your "up ten feet and then fall one inch straight down onto the
field" is a home run.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]
> wrote:
Because a ball can hit the edge and go up. The question should be
whether or not the ball hit the edge and went forward or backward.
Thus, a ball can hit the edge, then go up ten feet, and then fall
one inch straight down onto the field and still be in play.
I did not see this specific HOUR. I am guessing that it was past the
edge and hit something behind the wall plane and came back onto the
field.
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu May 20 04:09:47 2010
Subject: Ortiz HR
Thank goodness they took the HR call away from the umps. They seem
to consistently miss that call.
Why is it so hard to understand that a ball that bounces straight up
hit the top of the wall?
Ray
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