African or European? On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, William Marino <[email protected]>wrote:
> Does the pigeon go up? > > > -------------------------- > Sent using BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu May 20 13:43:08 2010 > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > Ball hits a wall, goes up, strikes a pigeon flying over the bleachers, > lands in the glove of Hanley Ramirez, who drops it, boots, then lollygags > after it. > > Home Run? Ground Rule Double? > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Ray and I work in the same office, Dan. Just FYI. J > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:31 PM > > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > > > Dang, now I am going to have to get my copy of Flatland out..... > > > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 11:36:01 AM > Subject: RE: Ortiz HR > > Okay, why do we have to do this? > > You approach it as if you’re right and there is no other > possibility than you being right. > > > > Let’s look at ideal conditions, Mr. Physics. > > > > There is an edge. It is a line in space. It defines the border > between the face of the wall and the top of the wall. It is not the top of > the wall. > > There is a ball assumed to be a perfect sphere with an even > distribution of mass throughout. > > Now, if the ball is traveling at a given velocity, v, and at an > angle of 0 degrees (straight), and the point of contact is below the center > of gravity, but less than 45 degrees below the center of gravity, then what > direction will the ball travel, HAVING NEVER HIT THE TOP OF THE WALL? > Upward, I will bet. And, being less than 45 degrees, it will come back onto > the field. Being more than 45 degrees, it will continue over the wall. > > > > That is from what I derive my opinion and my interpretation of the > rules. Not just, well I said so; so I’m right. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > > > Sorry John. Geometry is not a matter of opinion. > > A ball that goes up touched the top of the wall. > > Home run. > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Beaudoin, John < > [email protected]> wrote: > > No. It is your opinion that it is a home run. It is your > interpretation of the rules. It does not make you right just because you > say you are right. > > The last time you provided the prose from the rule book, we went > through the same thing. > > > > If a ball hits the edge of the wall that defines the border between > what is the top and what is the face of the wall, then we are in no-mans > land in debate. And my opinion is that if the ball hits the edge and goes > forward, then it is still in play. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Ortiz HR > > > > Again, there is no "edge". If the ball touches the top, it is > out. When it touches the top it goes up. > > Your "up ten feet and then fall one inch straight down onto the > field" is a home run. > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Beaudoin, John < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Because a ball can hit the edge and go up. The question should be > whether or not the ball hit the edge and went forward or backward. Thus, a > ball can hit the edge, then go up ten feet, and then fall one inch straight > down onto the field and still be in play. > > I did not see this specific HOUR. I am guessing that it was past > the edge and hit something behind the wall plane and came back onto the > field. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > To: [email protected] < > [email protected]> > Sent: Thu May 20 04:09:47 2010 > Subject: Ortiz HR > > Thank goodness they took the HR call away from the umps. They seem > to consistently miss that call. > > > > Why is it so hard to understand that a ball that bounces straight > up hit the top of the wall? > > > > Ray > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]>< > mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]>> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email 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