I go by the numbers? Hah. I can barely comprehend my own phone number. Steve O is much more numbery than I.
As for labels, John started it. 8p On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > I like numbers. Numbers are good. Don't dis the numbers. It's all in how > you interpret the numbers. "Thinking" is in fact a good thing. > > I disagree with labeling one's own opinions as realism, that's all :-) > > It makes me nervous being in the same camp with John, BTW ... > > Steve O > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Not the number of wins, but the talk of it being a rebuilding year and >> such only a couple weeks ago. That’s the only issue I have. Just an >> attitude. But you and Ray always go to numbers. I “feel”. You “think”. >> Different styles. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:54 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Nice Job, Lester.... >> >> >> >> Why are the realists pessimists? >> >> >> >> You look at the talent available and project 95-96 wins. >> >> >> >> I project five or six games fewer wins. >> >> >> >> The difference is small enough to make this argument ridiculous. >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Steve Ouellette < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Wait. Why are the pessimists the realists? >> >> I expect the Sox to win 95-96 games and make the playoffs, and I think I'm >> completely grounded in reasonableness. >> >> Steve O >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 100%, baby! >> >> Oh, wait. >> >> Too late. >> >> Unless you're an optimists. Then, anything's possible! >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You're right, Bill. >> >> >> >> But I have no interest in betting against the Sox success. I'd like them >> to win 100. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:09 AM, William Marino <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> This conversation is why wagering was invented… Ray’s 91 games feels >> about right. Starting pitching will be excellent by the end of June, but >> shortstop and catcher are big holes. I will reluctantly, though, take the >> over—partly driven by the emotion of hope. How about all the overs buy the >> 91 and unders dinner at the end of the season? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:03 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Nice Job, Lester.... >> >> >> >> I don't get what is so hard to believe. Their multiple ace pitching staff >> has pitched way below expectations. Most likely they will return to their >> proven level of competence (as Lester already has). Unless you believe >> Baltimore and Cleveland will continue to outpitch them. >> >> And "has scored only more than pitiful Baltimore" is awfully disingenuous. >> You could also have worded it "have scored the fifth most runs in baseball" >> or "have scored exactly as many runs as the all-powerful Rays" or "Are only >> six runs from being the highest scoring team in baseball." >> >> They're on pace for 89.5 wins despite having played terribly for much of >> that stretch. To get to 95 wins they don't have to play .600 ball for a full >> season, they only have to play it for 70 percent of a season. Last year they >> played .584 for a full season. If you believed they were a 95 win team at >> the start of this season (I don't know that you did), then why is that so >> difficult a task? >> >> Anyway, my gripe isn't with people who don't believe they can win a World >> Series -- a legitimate concern and an arguable point -- it was with people >> who said they were already out of the race, which is inarguably false. >> >> My gripe is also with Jacoby Ellsbury, who cost my fantasy team two weeks >> of "day-to-day" zeroes, and appears ready to do it again ... >> >> STEVE >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Wow, one game at a time. >> >> >> >> Let me write that one down. >> >> >> >> Got anything about giving 110%? >> >> >> >> With more than one quarter of the season played, this run prevention team >> has allowed the most runs in the division (second most in the league) and >> scored only more than pitiful baltimore in the AL East >> >> >> >> It currently stands in fourth place and is on pace to win 89.5 games. >> >> >> >> Yet some feel we should be fitted for World Series rings. >> >> >> >> If it plays .600 ball for the rest of the year, it will win 95 games. >> That's difficult to do. Only the Yankees played above .600 last year. >> >> >> >> But I concede it will "compete" for the playoffs, whatever that means. But >> I don't think it's built to win a championship. I believe I'm a realist. >> >> >> >> If I'm wrong, great. I'd rather be wrong than right. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Almost on pace for 91. >> >> >> >> Not quite yet. But getting there. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Beaudoin, John < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Eh-hem. >> Any thoughts from the "rebuilding" crew? >> >> One game at a time >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Sent*: Tue May 25 19:01:43 2010 >> *Subject*: Re: Nice Job, Lester.... >> >> I thought they sent down Darnell McDonald. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to 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