I actually think Beckett indicated Tek is his preferred catcher but I'm not
sure. BUT you're talking about a much younger Beckett. People change and
preferences change.

Any way I am ready to LOVE Salty but he can't catch and he can't hit. Not
yet anyway.
On Apr 22, 2011 7:00 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, that put me in my place.
>
> Just saying that someone much smarter than me is saying that he can't
> find any statistical evidence that all the savvy and pitch-framing in
> the world amounts to anything. Is it hard to believe that someone with
> the experience and athletic ability to get to the majors actually
> possesses these basic skills? Like every first baseman can catch a
> pickoff throw (Mo Vaughn excepted)? Every pitcher can cover first on a
> bunt (David Wells excepted)?
>
> Josh Beckett was a master with Mike Redmond behind the plate; he
> doesn't need a personal binky. That's an insult to him.
>
> Steve O
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well gee I had no idea catching wasn't a skilled position. Let's put
Lowrie
>> behind there.
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2011 6:43 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> Keith Woolner, who was administrator for the other Red Sox list for
>>> years, wrote for BP and now works for the first-place Indians, did an
>>> in-depth study on catcher defense, in BP and in a chapter ("Is Mike
>>> Matheny a catching genius?") of the book "Baseball by the Numbers."
>>> Interesting stuff, and the conclusion:
>>>
>>> "One of the most controversial results from the sabermetric community
>>> is the lack of evidence supporting big differences in catcher
>>> defensive ability, other than differences in controlling the running
>>> games ... the further we look into the realm of catcher performance,
>>> the fewer places the elusive realm of catcher influence has to hide.
>>> There is no objective evidence that the catchers considered to be the
>>> best at their craft actually improve pitcher efficiency, increase
>>> strike rates, induce more misses and fouls, or do anything else to
>>> reduce batters' offensive output."
>>>
>>> Steve O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Steve Ouellette
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> That's not consistent. You're saying Tek is five runs better than the
>>>> generic catcher defensively? Per game?
>>>>
>>>> Beckett's ERA with Paul Lo Duca, Mike Redmond and noted poor pitch
>>>> caller Pudge Rodriguez: 3.46.
>>>>
>>>> Steve O
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>> Those numbers are consistent with Beckett's Tek vs. Non-Tek numbers
over
>>>>> the
>>>>> past four years. To say catchers don't matter is silly.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2011 5:14 PM, "Ray Salemi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> This is a low sample size issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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