Best possible is he remained, pitched and earned his salary. On Oct 25, 2011 5:18 PM, "Larry Rupp" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a slightly different PoV > > He's been a self-centered jerk since coming here, albeit the same guy that > we saw in Anaheim. He had a tough season to say the least however > considering in late Aug we were on pace to hit 100 wins should he not have > gotten the surgery sooner? Yes it would have hurt the rotation but > certainly no worse then what he brought to the mound every 5th day. > > I see your point on his return possibly being advantageous but he still > leaves a bad taste in my mouth no matter how he returns... > > Sent from Larry's mobile > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > No crushing from me. I actually think this was the second best possible > outcome. > On Oct 25, 2011 4:59 PM, "William Marino" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** ** ** >> >> So I may get crushed here for defending the guy, but isn’t it likely that >> he’s had this injury all year and tried to pitch through it? Don’t get me >> wrong—they guy is still a massive jerk—but maybe he should get a little >> credit. Also, according to Wikipedia, there is a 85-92% chance of a full >> recovery. Maybe the way to handle him is surgery/rehab and see what he can >> do. It takes about a year to fully recover. Might not be the most prudent >> thing to do to trade him, most likely eat a big portion of his salary (and >> get nothing in return), then watch him revert back to his pre-injured form. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* **[email protected]** [mailto:** >> [email protected]**] *On Behalf Of *Larry Rupp >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:47 PM >> *To:* **[email protected]** >> *Subject:* Re: Lackey - Tommy John!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I hope so because that helps with his value to the Sox to trade him for >> 2013&2014. This guy just keeps getting worse even not pitching... >> >> Sent from Larry's mobile**** >> >> >> On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:**** >> >> Wow! That's quite a contract clause. I guess they were concerned enough >> about his shoulder. I wonder if that's tradeable. I assume it would be.** >> ** >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Charles Battikha <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> So let the speculations begin... How long did he need it? Or is this an >> excuse?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What's also amazing is the contract. Is that standard in contracts or was >> there already a concern? **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Lackey’s contract has a clause that states if the pitcher misses time >> because of Tommy John surgery on his elbow, he has to give the Red Sox a >> sixth year at the league minimum salary.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley wrote:**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> Yup. He's out for next season. **** >> >> **** >> >> >> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/john_lackey_to.html?p1=News_links >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:47 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Lackey - Tommy John!**** >> >> what does this mean? He's having Tommy John?**** >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >> **** >> >> Interesting.**** >> >> **** >> >> Dan D >> Central NJ ****USA******** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.**** >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.**** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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