I suspect he had some elbow injury all along, but not one severe enough to warrant a DL stint or TJ surgery. I suspect that this might be a case where the doctor may have said (perhaps with some prodding from the Sox), 'Look, big guy, your elbow isn't shot, but at some point in the next year or two, it could go.'. So I am wondering if this is somewhat preventative TJ surgery. I mean, if he had REALLY needed it, he wouldn't have been pitching, period. Wouldn't have been able to. So, this gives the Sox and him an out for 2012, and allows him to demonstrate his commitment to the team, blah blah blah, by really working hard at rehab.
I think many guys actually come back with stronger elbows after this surgery. But I don't know what it does for personality. Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: William Marino <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: RE: Lackey - Tommy John! So I may get crushed here for defending the guy, but isn’t it likely that he’s had this injury all year and tried to pitch through it? Don’t get me wrong—they guy is still a massive jerk—but maybe he should get a little credit. Also, according to Wikipedia, there is a 85-92% chance of a full recovery. Maybe the way to handle him is surgery/rehab and see what he can do. It takes about a year to fully recover. Might not be the most prudent thing to do to trade him, most likely eat a big portion of his salary (and get nothing in return), then watch him revert back to his pre-injured form. ________________________________ From:[email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Larry Rupp Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Lackey - Tommy John! I hope so because that helps with his value to the Sox to trade him for 2013&2014. This guy just keeps getting worse even not pitching... Sent from Larry's mobile On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: Wow! That's quite a contract clause. I guess they were concerned enough about his shoulder. I wonder if that's tradeable. I assume it would be. >On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Charles Battikha <[email protected]> wrote: >So let the speculations begin... How long did he need it? Or is this an excuse? > >What's also amazing is the contract. Is that standard in contracts or was there already a concern? > >Lackey’s contract has a clause that states if the pitcher misses time because of Tommy John surgery on his elbow, he has to give the Red Sox a sixth year at the league minimum salary. > > > >On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley wrote: > > > >Yup. He's out for next season. > >http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/john_lackey_to.html?p1=News_links > >From:Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:47 PM >Subject: Re: Lackey - Tommy John! >what does this mean? He's having Tommy John? >On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >Interesting. > >Dan D >Central NJ USA >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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