Shane
This is a subject I've been kind of concerned about. I've got my 100g tank against a
load bearing wall (oak stand and canopy with no sump). The floor in this room (a
1970's addition to this
1940's house) bounces if you jump up and down. Is this an advantage when our big
earthquake occurs? (I live in Long Beach, California) Or...what I really think, that
this could be a problem
and that I should reinforce the floor as has been done in another part of the house
(another addition which is our bedroom). Both rooms are kind of long. Our bedroom
has cement blocks with
beams on top of them to give the floor more rigidity - is it necessary to do this same
thing to the livingroom where the aquarium is located?
Thanks,
Tim
Shane Moore wrote:
> sorry guys, i didn't read all the posts before replying previously.
>
> steve, this is not a flame. it's something i know alot about (i am an
> engineer, i know the building code, i've done the calcs for my own tank, and
> sadly we have two waterbeds --anyone want to buy one??) anyway forget
> waterbeds.
>
> i can tell you that if you consider the weight of a 180g tank (i think they
> are about 300 lbs), the stand, hood, sump, all the equipment, water and
> rock, you will likely exceed the capacity of standard floor joists. this
> means that you could see effects ranging from nothing at all to differential
> settlement to structural failure of the floor joist. depends on a whole
> bunch of things.
>
> the floor joist do NOT hold up a house. the load bearing walls do, and
> those walls (or beams) which are founded on concrete footings support the
> floor joist. the floor joist often support interior walls, but that worsens
> the case if you are looking to place your tank beside a non-load bearing
> interior wall because you alreading have a load on the joist from that wall.
>
> i wanted a 180g and went with a 135g because my house (with full dimension
> fir 2"x12" 16"c floor joist) couldn't support a 180 with stand sump etc. i
> also know that most houses are not built with full dimension lumber which
> means that they are capable of supporting LESS weight than what my floor
> can.
>
> hopes this helps clear things up for a few people. i can provide add'l info
> if anybody wants it. hello? hello?? oh damn, did i put you all to
> sleep?
>
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Klingerman Virus
> >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:26:21 -0500
> >
> >It is true that the water bed has a larger footprint. However if you look
> >at
> >almost all waterbeds the actual footprint is much smaller then the bed. If
> >you ever put a waterbed together you will now the box that sits on the
> >floor
> >is rather small when compared to the box that holds the water that sits on
> >top. Anyhow my point is that if you run your tank perpendicular to the
> >floor
> >joists they will hold this guys 180 gallon tank quite easily. You have to
> >remember those things are holding up the entire house. They can hold alot
> >of
> >weight.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >---------- Original Text ----------
> >
> >From: "Derek Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 1/12/01 1:11 PM:
> >
> >Well a water bed is spread out over at least a 4 x 6 or 6 x 6 area, a tank
> >is only in a 11/2 x 6 or 2 x 4 area, or similar. Puts alot more lbs per
> >square foot in a small area.
> >Derek
> >See my reef at Http://www.geocities.com/reefsalot/
> >Under HEAVY construction!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:41 AM
> >Subject: RE: Klingerman Virus
> >
> >
> > > Reinforcing you floor, do you really think thats necessary. If you run
> >your
> > > tank perpindicular to your floor joists I doubt you need such a thing.
> >I
> > > mean think about it, people put in water beds without thinking twice and
> >they
> > > wiegh as much as a car.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > ---------- Original Text ----------
> > >
> > > From: "David & Karen Whooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 1/11/01 12:21 AM:
> > >
> > > I'm still working on getting Karen to let me upgrade to a 120 or bigger.
> > > She seems to get nervous when I talk about reinforcing the floor. Go
> > > figure.
> > >
> > > Actually, I've let my tank just "evolve" for the last few months. I
> >have
> > > had all kinds of creatures emerging from the live rock. I'm leery of
> >adding
> > > anything. I don't want to disturb the balance it's found.
> > >
> > > david
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:17 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Klingerman Virus
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/11/01 12:08:23 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > > << And a damn fine source he is! Just happens to be my brother!
> > >
> > > david >>
> > > And aren't you so proud???? LOL Hey....got that 1100 Gal. set up yet?
> >We
> > > are working on it!
> > > Sherri
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