Hey Ron. Yea, I hate to say it too... but you are both right. I mean, I want
to do it, but the stand on the 170 is nicer than the one on the 70. I tend
to envision what the set up would be like and how cool it would be to have
the two tanks with the different animals, and not look at the overall
picture. The stand on the 70 I made myself with a 2x4 frame, and then just
put � inch particle board all around it... basically boxed the frame in.
Then I painted the whole thing black. It is actually a decent looking stand,
but not as nice as the glossy black oak stand. You know, someone mentioned
throwing down the $$ to get a nice stand for the 70, but is what I could do
is just remove the particle board from the frame, then re-do it in an oak,
then match the paint. It would probably only cost 60-70 bucks. Maybe that
would get me the go-ahead.... 

I also looked into putting them into different rooms. No way. She wasn't
going for it. Better chance on getting them into one room. It actually would
have been cool, because I could have put the 170 into the entry room, then
put the 70 in the living room (where the t.v and such is). These rooms are
adjacent to each other and I could put the 70 along the wall that joins the
two rooms. It would be behind the couch, and I could have easily tied them
together by simply running the outlet and return down and through the wall.
Probably wouldn't even see them since it would have been behind the couch.
Anyways, the answer to that idea was "I don't want to live at the Monterey
Bay Aquarium". Which I wouldn't mind, but she aint goin for it. And, as I
mentioned, I cant complain too much, because she is not arguing about
upgrading to the 170.....

Thanks for agreeing with my wife.... (just kidding)

Shane

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Ron Earl [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:05 PM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: Used tank...

        can you plumb them together but put them in separate rooms????

        I can't believe I'm going to say this but if they are both going
into your
        living room or the such she's probably right....sounds like the 170
has a
        pretty good looking stand and the 70 isn't quite as nice...(I've
never seen
        a particle board stand before).  That's probably why she's allowing
you to
        upgrade your tank.

        ron



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 6:26 PM
        Subject: RE: Used tank...


        > She thinks it will look bad. Personally, I am into making the
inhabitants
        of
        > the tanks the center of attention. The stand and surrounding
objects are
        > secondary (I am not saying I wouldn't want the stand and such to
look
        good,
        > but they are barely noticed when people notice the tank). The
stands are
        not
        > exactly the same, and she thinks having 2 tanks in the room like
that is
        > going to look funky. Both stands are black, but the 170 is a shiny
oak
        > finish and my current set up is a flat black particle board set
up. I can
        > repaint it to a shiny coat, which may help, but I don't think she
thinks
        the
        > two tanks together like that will look good. I think it would be
pretty
        wild
        > looking. I picture a nice 6 foot reef tank with a bunch of SPS and
fish
        and
        > then kitty-corner the cubical 70 with a big fat carpet anemone in
it with
        > some clownfish doing their thing.
        >
        > She didn't argue about the 170, which actually threw me because
she
        already
        > hates the 70, but then when I tried to mix both tanks in their,
she wasn't
        > going for it... I hope I can make it work, but may have to just be
happy
        > with the 170 (I say that like a 170 is a bad thing!)....
        >
        >  Shane
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:16 PM
        > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        > Subject: RE: Used tank...
        >
        > Well Shane,  I would say find out what it is that is concerning
the
        > wife
        > about it.  The room it will take up,  the noise,  money,  then see
        > what you
        > can do to alleviate her concerns.  ( had to just do this with my
        > wife to get
        > my 220 setup. )  She was worried it was going to be a eyesore but
        > once I
        > showed her that it would actually look very nice she was all for
it.
        >
        >
        > Steve
        > ---------- Original Text ----------
        >
        > From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2001-06-20 4:13 PM:
        >
        > Okay everyone.... Heres the real question. Ran the two tank idea
by
        > the wife
        > today. She was not going for it. She was not so against the big
        > tank, but
        > was not going for the two tank set up. So...  the real question
is,
        > how do I
        > convince her that the two tank set up would be cool??? That is the
        > real
        > question...
        >
        > Fifty bucks to however can give me the sure fire way!! :-)
        >
        >
        > Shane
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:40 PM
        > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        > Subject: Re: Used tank...
        >
        > Hi, Shane. Hoping to encourage you to do the deal. 170
        > gallons is a
        > lot of
        > tank, especially connected to your 70 gallon. Seems like a
        > very
        > interesting
        > set-up. If the 170 is rectangular, you can simply build a
        > shelf over
        > it and
        > mount the lights on the underside of the shelf. You can
        > place light
        > things
        > for storage on top and put a nice looking trim around it for
        > a more
        > professional look. You can do this by buying premachined
        > boards at
        > Home Depot
        > and mounting them on some inexpensive shelf brackets. The
        > whole
        > project can
        > be done really well for under $100. You would need a good
        > return
        > pump and for
        > a system that size an Iwaki WMD40XRLT would work very well.
        > These
        > are
        > available online for around $160 plus shipping and will
        > literally
        > run
        > forever. You can, of course, hard plum the entire system
        > easily with
        > sched.
        > 40 PVC. I have about 500 gallons of systems on the second
        > floor of
        > our house.
        > The weight is not a problem as long as we don't add
        > waterbeds! You
        > should try
        > to put your tanks perpendicular to floor joists. Electrical
        > supply
        > is more of
        > a concern. You can very easily polish out the majority of
        > defects in
        > the
        > plexi by yourself for much less than $200. Go for it! HTH.
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