Yep. Didnt make a difference.
Shane
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Lighting question
>
> Did you ever try adding iodine ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:43 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Lighting question
>
>
> True, they are. I dunno though, again we get into the discussion of
> overlighting. I really think the industry advocates much more light than
> needed. My tank is 20 inches deep. My MH is mounted in the middle. I had
> to
> put my frogspawn all the way to the left bottom and THEN block some light
> with eggcrate. After doing that, it colored up pretty well, and opens up
> nicely. If I even move the eggcrate away, it stops opening as much, and
> looses color. I had the same problem with my torch and another frogspawn,
> and notice you didnt see them in my pics. Its because I had to take them
> back. Just too much light and not enough caves to cover them.
>
> MHs may work just fine, but I would bet 4 - 110 watt VHOS would be enough
> to
> do LPS and Softies just fine.....(although you dont get those glitter
> lines
> that we all LOVE!!)
>
> IMO
>
> Shane C.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Dillard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Lighting question
> >
> > I think that with the 120 you would not want anything less then the
> 175s,
> > even for softies, 120s are pretty deep.
> >
> >
> > IMO
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> >
> >
> > > Yea. There are a lot of corals that are more difficult to keep under
> > MHs.
> > > Forget any types of musrooms or anything like that. Polyps and such
> can
> > be
> > > kept if you keep them in a cave or at the very bottom of the tank. LPS
> > are
> > > much more difficult to acclimate to MHs, and IME, dont do well under
> > them
> > > (although some on the list have kept them with MHs just fine). If you
> > keep
> > > LPS under mhs, you have to really give them time to acclimate. Softies
> > can
> > > be kept, but should be kept low in the tank (a couple species do well
> > high
> > > in the tank under mhs though). Clams and SPS will love them.
> > >
> > > That being said, my MH is quite close to the water. About 10 inches
> from
> > the
> > > top of the water to the bottom of the bulb. Yours will be higher, and
> > that
> > > will help. It is just something to consider when purchasing and
> placing
> > your
> > > corals.
> > >
> > > IMO
> > >
> > > Shane C.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:05 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure at this point. I just that the MH provided me with the
> > most
> > > > flexiblity.
> > > >
> > > > Is their anything that I shouldn't keep under MH ?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:02 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hhmmm, should be okay. Elevating the hood will help a lot. You can
> > also
> > > > install a nice little icecap fan in it and have it blowing hot air
> > out,
> > if
> > > > heat becomes an issue. What are you planning to keep in the system?
> > > > Dealers
> > > > were right, not much difference in heat. MHs are good lights, but
> > depends
> > > > on
> > > > what you are going to be keeping...
> > > >
> > > > Shane
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > > >
> > > > > The hood is fairly open (back is open, slats on top) and I plan on
> > > > > mounting
> > > > > the assembly close to a foot above the water. I have 2 40W light
> > right
> > > > now
> > > > > sitting right on top of the tank.
> > > > >
> > > > > Temp right now is not an issue. I have a temp controller that
> turns
> > on
> > a
> > > > > fan
> > > > > that blows across the top of the tank. This only runs in the
> summer.
> > I'm
> > > > > praying that I don't need to do more with this lighting upgrade.
> > > > >
> > > > > I talked to several dealers before ordering the lights. Some
> > indicated
> > > > > that
> > > > > the heat differential was not going to be much if anything between
> > the
> > > > > VHO,
> > > > > PC, or MH setup. Since the MH setup is the preferred lighting
> > > > arrangement
> > > > > (don't flame me, it's a general accepted truth !) I went with the
> > MH.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right decision ?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:10 PM
> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are so many factors, it is impossible to tell. Room temp,
> temp
> > > > > outside, enclosed or open hood, fans on the hood and or blowing on
> > sump,
> > > > > any
> > > > > direct sunlight, temp of tank right now w/no lights etc. I would
> > guess
> > > > > (and
> > > > > I mean guess), you are going to get 2-3 degrees increase. You can
> > > > counter
> > > > > that with fans blowing on your sump and or in and out of your
> hood.
> > If
> > > > you
> > > > > already have fans and your temp runs in the high range, you might
> be
> > in
> > > > > trouble.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shane
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:05 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, that makes sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess my question is, what do you expect the temp rise to be ?
> > > > Minimal
> > > > > > (I
> > > > > > hope) ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:53 PM
> > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yea, but only becuase it is more wattage. A watt is a watt, and
> > the
> > > > heat
> > > > > > from one watt is as hot as that from another. You are looking at
> > 480
> > > > > watts
> > > > > > on the MH, 440 from the VHO and 384 from the PCs, thus the PCs
> are
> > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be the coolest running.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW
> > > > > > Shane C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:45 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Lighting question
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I plan on installing a retro lighting kit into my aquarium
> hood.
> > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > 120G All-Glass Modern
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I ordered a hood with 2 175W MH and 2 65W PC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In your opinion will this hood increase the water temp more
> that
> > 4
> > > > 96W
> > > > > > PC
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > 4 110W VHO ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andrew Culross
> > > > > > > OPICS Product Center
> > > > > > > 914.821.2572
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