I think that with the 120 you would not want anything less then the 175s,
even for softies, 120s are pretty deep.


IMO
Andrew


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Lighting question


> Yea. There are a lot of corals that are more difficult to keep under MHs.
> Forget any types of musrooms or anything like that. Polyps and such can be
> kept if you keep them in a cave or at the very bottom of the tank. LPS are
> much more difficult to acclimate to MHs, and IME, dont do well under them
> (although some on the list have kept them with MHs just fine). If you keep
> LPS under mhs, you have to really give them time to acclimate. Softies can
> be kept, but should be kept low in the tank (a couple species do well high
> in the tank under mhs though). Clams and SPS will love them.
>
> That being said, my MH is quite close to the water. About 10 inches from
the
> top of the water to the bottom of the bulb. Yours will be higher, and that
> will help. It is just something to consider when purchasing and placing
your
> corals.
>
> IMO
>
> Shane C.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> >
> > I'm not sure at this point. I just that the MH provided me with the most
> > flexiblity.
> >
> > Is their anything that I shouldn't keep under MH ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:02 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> >
> >
> > Hhmmm, should be okay. Elevating the hood will help a lot. You can also
> > install a nice little icecap fan in it and have it blowing hot air out,
if
> > heat becomes an issue. What are you planning to keep in the system?
> > Dealers
> > were right, not much difference in heat. MHs are good lights, but
depends
> > on
> > what you are going to be keeping...
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > >
> > > The hood is fairly open (back is open, slats on top) and I plan on
> > > mounting
> > > the assembly close to a foot above the water. I have 2 40W light right
> > now
> > > sitting right on top of the tank.
> > >
> > > Temp right now is not an issue. I have a temp controller that turns on
a
> > > fan
> > > that blows across the top of the tank. This only runs in the summer.
I'm
> > > praying that I don't need to do more with this lighting upgrade.
> > >
> > > I talked to several dealers before ordering the lights. Some indicated
> > > that
> > > the heat differential was not going to be much if anything between the
> > > VHO,
> > > PC, or MH setup. Since the MH setup is the preferred lighting
> > arrangement
> > > (don't flame me, it's a general accepted truth !) I went with the MH.
> > >
> > > Right decision ?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:10 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > >
> > >
> > > There are so many factors, it is impossible to tell. Room temp, temp
> > > outside, enclosed or open hood, fans on the hood and or blowing on
sump,
> > > any
> > > direct sunlight, temp of tank right now w/no lights etc. I would guess
> > > (and
> > > I mean guess), you are going to get 2-3 degrees increase. You can
> > counter
> > > that with fans blowing on your sump and or in and out of your hood. If
> > you
> > > already have fans and your temp runs in the high range, you might be
in
> > > trouble.
> > >
> > > Shane
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:05 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that makes sense.
> > > >
> > > > I guess my question is, what do you expect the temp rise to be ?
> > Minimal
> > > > (I
> > > > hope) ?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:53 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: Lighting question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yea, but only becuase it is more wattage. A watt is a watt, and the
> > heat
> > > > from one watt is as hot as that from another. You are looking at 480
> > > watts
> > > > on the MH, 440 from the VHO and 384 from the PCs, thus the PCs are
> > going
> > > > to
> > > > be the coolest running.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW
> > > > Shane C.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:45 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Lighting question
> > > > >
> > > > > I plan on installing a retro lighting kit into my aquarium hood. I
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > 120G All-Glass Modern
> > > > >
> > > > > I ordered a hood with 2 175W MH and 2 65W PC
> > > > >
> > > > > In your opinion will this hood increase the water temp more that 4
> > 96W
> > > > PC
> > > > > or
> > > > > 4 110W VHO ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew Culross
> > > > > OPICS Product Center
> > > > > 914.821.2572
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