I agree with Doug and add that RG58 and foil/braid cables should not be 
used. Heliax is best and short jumpers from RG-400 or RG-142 (both of these 
cables are silver, double-braid construction with a teflon jacket) are 
typically recommended.

Chuck
WB2EDV



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Bade" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Completely Stumped on Noise (UHF 
Repeater)


>         Operating a VHF or UHF stationary repeater in a potentially
> high RF environment ( i.e. other repeaters nearby) with a mobile
> style receiver ( maxtrac ) and no filtering of any kind ( Like a
> bandpass/reject duplexer) is not a suggested configuration in my world..
>
>         In many sites this will yield interference from other nearby
> repeaters due to RF overload...
>
>         Unshielded cables for mic wires and rx vol hi wires in a
> high RF environment is also not suggested.
>
>         Mobile duplexers ( not suggested in this case) are designed
> to protect you from yourself and pretty much that is all they do...
> but in a station duplexer with pass/reject filtering .. it is
> designed to protect your receiver from overload from just about all
> sources besides a mobile or portable within a couple hundred
> kiloherts.. and any of that off freq is supposed to be filtered by
> your I.F. filters..
>
> They are suggested for many other reasons besides a single antenna
> solution....if the interference is overload.. it would probably help...
>
> Alternately try a bandpass filter on your rx, if that does not help,
> then the source of the interference is probably another
> transmitter... and without friendly support from the owner may be
> difficult to resolve...
>
> Doug
> KD8B
>
> At 11:10 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>>The receive radio has a 20 ft piece of RG-58 Belden and the TX radio
>>has 40 ft of LMR 400. After I had already purchased and installed
>>the LMR braid cable I then learned to my knowledge this was not
>>recomended for duplex use and it could cause noise and other
>>problems but there is no LMR on the receive end of the radio and it
>>still does it when the TX radio is turned off.
>>
>>--- In
>><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected],
>>"Chuck Kelsey" <wb2...@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Like Nate said, sounds like an intermod product with your
>> transmitter being
>> > part of the mix.
>> >
>> > My standard question has become -- are you using any LMR400, 9913
>> or similar
>> > foil/braid coax anywhere in your system?
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> > WB2EDV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "agrimm0034" <agrimm0...@...>
>> > To:
>> <<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:24 PM
>> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Completly Stumped on Noise (UHF Repeater)
>> >
>> >
>> > > This noise in my repeater has me completly stumped. I've tried
>> everything
>> > > I know possible to make it stop but nothing has helped. Here are some
>> > > quick specs on what my repeater is...
>> > > GMRS repeater RX 467.600 TX 462.600 DPL 054 TX 30 watts.
>> > >
>> > > My local repeater when I key opens up to a scratchy noise with the 
>> > > local
>> > > police department in the background. It ONLY opens up when they
>> key up the
>> > > same time my repeater is being keyed. It is not perfectly clear it is
>> > > scratchy but I have no idea how they are squeezing in on myn. I did 
>> > > find
>> > > there frequency's and location of there repeater so mabye
>> someone can help
>> > > tell me what is wrong. Here is the Police Dept Repeater Details...
>> > > PD Repeater - RX 460.4500 TX 465.4500 PL 6A 75 watt. (There
>> tower is also
>> > > located directly across from mine roughly 1/2 mile horizontally
>> > > separated.)
>> > >
>> > > I've also tried changing my frequency and PL tones and it still has 
>> > > not
>> > > made one bit of difference. I'f someone could help me out I'd gladly
>> > > appreciate it. Thanks
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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