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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/10/2008 11:47:33 PM:
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Greg Swift wrote:
What is a "base" (for lack of a bettter term) server? (RHEL is a
server
platform, after all)
Personally I would define it as a system that has the underlying os, a
method for managing it locally and remotely, a method for managing
software, and security.
By the way, if you put just this in kickstart you get exactly that:
%packages --nobase --resolvedeps
openssh-server
yum-rhn-plugin
Now, that pulls in about 800M of other packages because of the deps.
Perhaps you really want some statically compiled minimal version of
some of these (though you'd be hard pressed to do without python).
Once again, the requirement of a kickstart. I did just test this one.
Just so you know, resolvedeps is deprecated. Fairly nice and clean from a
package count, 158 x86_64 and noarch packages (there was also about 18 x86
packages before that I removed). And you are right.. almost exactly 800M.
I browsed through the package list, can't really complain about whats
there. Sad that the size is so big, but I've no resolution for that at the
moment.
It happens I have virtual Debian 4 and CentOS 5 systems. On both, I
didn't do much package selection.
Debian's using 328M on the root filesystem, C5 is using 1.1 Gbytes.
I just booted both to have a look. Debian was finished (including a
filesystem check!) before C5 got past udev.
The comparison isn't completely fair, as the intended purpose of the C5
system is to run a web server and CMS.
If it's a VM you might be able to do without openssh-server and use
only the functionality in RHN. I doubt it would really save you much,
though.
In general I'm usually taking about standalones, but VMs are a great
example of where this is useful. Unfortunately VMs tend to be a good place
for using kickstarts. Actually I take that back. Since with a Virtual I
can install and copy, not having to do a kickstart is very useful there as
well. Thats what I don't understand. Why is there a perception that
having a clean and small base server install from the leading Enterprise
Linux vendor without a custom installation process via kickstart is such a
bad concept?
Not all VMs run on intellish hardware, folk have been running virtual
machines on IBM mainframe for decades.
I'm done for now.. this is a tired discussion and I've yet to get hear a
reasonable justification for whats wrong with wanting clean and small
without a kickstart. And I'm sure i'm just being an annoyance at this
point. My apologies.
I've lamented this point on Fedora Users' list. If I want a small
system, it's Debian.
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John
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