On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 07:54:59AM -0700, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > I have tried to use RH support for actual RHEL problems, filing Bugzilla
> > entries only for Fedora problems (or for RFE-type RHEL things).
> > However, my experience with RH support has been rather poor; my boss
> > asked "so why do we pay for this" after one recent issue.  I don't think
> > I've actually had a solution or fix provided by Red Hat yet (I had to
> > find my own work-arounds for every issue I found).
> 
> Again interesting and disturbing. Here is a relatively recent EL5
> problem with openldap and pam that I reported on bugzilla:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426050
> 
> As you can read, Tomas Mraz @redhat worked with me (an edu
> customer, but he did not necessarily even know that) and provided
> good troubleshooting advice and, once he could reproduce,
> debugged this difficult thread-related problem. By keeping this fully
> public we also got more details from CentOS users. The bug was
> actually in the nss_ldap library and, with help from the author of
> dovecot, a different Red Hat employee developed a fix and posted
> it publicly:
> 
> http://people.redhat.com/tjanouse/dovecot/154314/el4.spec.diff
> 
> Of course, we are left with workarounds until the fix passes QA.
> 
> Again this indicates to me that:
> 1) Red Hat has some great people that know their stuff and will
> take the time to figure out an issue reported on bugzilla.
> 2) Keeping bug reports in the community currently gets better
> results than going directly to support. In fact, until support
> improves maybe the money is best thought of as a donation. :(

I've always seen the SR's and Bugzilla's as complementing each other.
I'll file at bz then file an SR and point to that bugzilla with the
hope that there'll be a little more impetus to work on the bz if
there's an actual support request in by a paying customer.

I've gotten good support from things on RH in the past, but I certainly
don't expect their tech support staff to be developers... but I do
expect them to know how to leverage bugzilla effectively when I use the
two of them together...

Ray

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