Thank you for that Garth Cartledge
At 01:31 PM 11/8/2004, donnella whitacre wrote: >oh what a dunce i am sorry. it is called" From Time Immemorial" by Joan >Peters. i didn't understand what you meant. ISBN 0 06 015265-6 was written >in 1982. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:But - what is the book and who is the >author? As I said I missed the earlier parts of teh thread. I canot get >and and read it until I know what I shoudl be getting :-) > >Ta > >Garth Cartledge > > > > From: donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 08/11/2004 9:24:36 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Re: [rhetoric-list] Re: [RHETORIC] They Call him "Your > Exellency" > > > > > > i dont know what you mean? i quoted some of the people who reviewed > and talked about the book, i would just suggest you get it and read it > and make up your own mind about the material. > > i read a great deal, i don't accept all of anything any one says. i > read for and against and hope that the material gives a broad picture. > > "O Jerusalem" by by Larry Collins and Dominique LaPierre. the only > thing i didnt' agree with them was deir Yassin. i had to get that from > several sources. it came down to a party line between the right and left > and they quoted the right in the book. several others didnt' agree with > them at all. > > but on the whole the book is very fair and showed me some good and > wonderful things that arabs did during that pressing time.how the common > folks on both sides managed to be human in such a Horrible war. > > they were very fair to both sides. > > it took them 10 years of research to do the book. > > but you can't say that maps and census's are lying . sorry. > > any by the way i h ad this arguement with some one here. > Aramaic(targum) and Arabic are both lanugages. Aramaic is what jesus spoke . > > any way, research means lots of reading not just one book and sometimes > you have to change your mind? > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry, I missed the earlier part of this thread. Cold you please give > me the full citation to Peters and her work, and in particular the work > being referred to here > > > > Ta > > > > Garth Cartledge > > > > > > From: donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 08/11/2004 8:17:43 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [rhetoric-list] Re: [RHETORIC] They Call him "Your > Exellency" > > > > > > > > > she has quite a lot of quote and maps and resources all of which she > backs up. i have heard her favorably reveiwed by many people in this > area. i wonder with a bibliography as big as the book how she could be so > wrong. she names the people she quotes and i have these quotes from other > sources. > > > i have heard mark twain quoted in a few lines, but she quotes a whole > letter of his in which he speaks of his diappointment with the lack of > people and the desolation of the land. > > > i dont' use just one person, i have read much of what she said > elsewere. just didn't have the sources she quoted to back them up. it is > kinda hard to dicker with the very people who said those things isn't it? > > > how can you screw up the actual census records or officals who say > these things? also many of the arabs she quote are very pro israel? > > > she was the white house consultant on the middle east in `1977 and > lectured extensivelly on the middle east. > > > Philip m Hauser Director Emeritus Population Research Center, > University of Chicago and former acting director of the U.S.Census > states:" her book provides demographic and hsitoric perspectives which > have been inexplicably and substantially ingorned until now." > > > Saul Bellows, S.D. Gotein, the Institute of Sdvanced Study, > Princeton. William v. O'Brian Gerogetown University , the New Rebulic, > National Review, Altantic Monthy, Los Angeles time, Toronto Star and many > many more are witness that some one thinks she is saying some thing worth > will. > > > i have heard people dispute small things in her book but never > dispute the whole contents. > > > > > > > > > "(ARTEMIS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ================== > > > FIGHT THE RIGHT! > > > ================== > > > > > > I would not use Peters as a source. Most scholars, including those > who are > > > more sympathetic to the Zionist cause will not use her data, referring to > > > it instead as pseudo-scholarship, since most of her own sources are not > > > credible or some source quoting from another source who is quoting from > > > yet another source and some of it has been refuted. It was poorly > > > researched and seems now to be overly biased in favor of her conclusions. > > > It is appealing to use her as a source to support your own > conclusions and > > > agenda but it doesn't do you or your cause any good to do so. > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, donnella whitacre wrote: > > > > > > > Sasson Saleb 90, was one of six elderly jews airlifted out of iraq to > > > > israel on july 25, 2003. with his departure 28 jews remained in a > > > > country that was once home to 125,000 jews. that is just one > country. we > > > > out number the so called arab refugee a great many of who have only > been > > > > there one generation. i just got done reading "From Time > Immemorial" and > > > > if even half of it is true, this is the biggest lie fostered in this > > > > century. her documentation is practically another book in its; self. > > > > what israel has become is a direct result of 54 years of self defense. > > > > untill the hatred shown them by the arabs is erased, i don't think > there > > > > will be peace. as i told another poster, sharon is wiping out the > > > > settlements trying to make it happen, alienating most of the jewish > > > > population. i gaurantee you they will find some other reason why they > > > > can't agree to peace. i am glad we can agree on something, that is a > > > > start. great things come from little beginings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > / o o \ > > > ===OO=====OO============================================= > > > (4)Portals (2)News Wikis (2)Conferences - No More BuSHIT! > > > Start here: http://pnews.org/ (On Internet since 1982) > > > http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) > > > http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) > > > ========================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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