i dont know what you mean? i quoted some of the people who reviewed and talked about the book, i would just suggest you get it and read it and make up your own mind about the material. i read a great deal, i don't accept all of anything any one says. i read for and against and hope that the material gives a broad picture. "O Jerusalem" by by Larry Collins and Dominique LaPierre. the only thing i didnt' agree with them was deir Yassin. i had to get that from several sources. it came down to a party line between the right and left and they quoted the right in the book. several others didnt' agree with them at all. but on the whole the book is very fair and showed me some good and wonderful things that arabs did during that pressing time.how the common folks on both sides managed to be human in such a Horrible war. they were very fair to both sides. it took them 10 years of research to do the book. but you can't say that maps and census's are lying . sorry. any by the way i h ad this arguement with some one here. Aramaic(targum) and Arabic are both lanugages. Aramaic is what jesus spoke . any way, research means lots of reading not just one book and sometimes you have to change your mind?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I missed the earlier part of this thread. Cold you please give me the full citation to Peters and her work, and in particular the work being referred to here Ta Garth Cartledge > > From: donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 08/11/2004 8:17:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [rhetoric-list] Re: [RHETORIC] They Call him "Your Exellency" > > > she has quite a lot of quote and maps and resources all of which she backs > up. i have heard her favorably reveiwed by many people in this area. i wonder > with a bibliography as big as the book how she could be so wrong. she names > the people she quotes and i have these quotes from other sources. > i have heard mark twain quoted in a few lines, but she quotes a whole letter > of his in which he speaks of his diappointment with the lack of people and > the desolation of the land. > i dont' use just one person, i have read much of what she said elsewere. just > didn't have the sources she quoted to back them up. it is kinda hard to > dicker with the very people who said those things isn't it? > how can you screw up the actual census records or officals who say these > things? also many of the arabs she quote are very pro israel? > she was the white house consultant on the middle east in `1977 and lectured > extensivelly on the middle east. > Philip m Hauser Director Emeritus Population Research Center, University of > Chicago and former acting director of the U.S.Census states:" her book > provides demographic and hsitoric perspectives which have been inexplicably > and substantially ingorned until now." > Saul Bellows, S.D. Gotein, the Institute of Sdvanced Study, Princeton. > William v. O'Brian Gerogetown University , the New Rebulic, National Review, > Altantic Monthy, Los Angeles time, Toronto Star and many many more are > witness that some one thinks she is saying some thing worth will. > i have heard people dispute small things in her book but never dispute the > whole contents. > > > "(ARTEMIS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ================== > FIGHT THE RIGHT! > ================== > > I would not use Peters as a source. Most scholars, including those who are > more sympathetic to the Zionist cause will not use her data, referring to > it instead as pseudo-scholarship, since most of her own sources are not > credible or some source quoting from another source who is quoting from > yet another source and some of it has been refuted. It was poorly > researched and seems now to be overly biased in favor of her conclusions. > It is appealing to use her as a source to support your own conclusions and > agenda but it doesn't do you or your cause any good to do so. > > Hank > > > > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, donnella whitacre wrote: > > > Sasson Saleb 90, was one of six elderly jews airlifted out of iraq to > > israel on july 25, 2003. with his departure 28 jews remained in a > > country that was once home to 125,000 jews. that is just one country. we > > out number the so called arab refugee a great many of who have only been > > there one generation. i just got done reading "From Time Immemorial" and > > if even half of it is true, this is the biggest lie fostered in this > > century. her documentation is practically another book in its; self. > > what israel has become is a direct result of 54 years of self defense. > > untill the hatred shown them by the arabs is erased, i don't think there > > will be peace. as i told another poster, sharon is wiping out the > > settlements trying to make it happen, alienating most of the jewish > > population. i gaurantee you they will find some other reason why they > > can't agree to peace. i am glad we can agree on something, that is a > > start. great things come from little beginings. > > > > > ----- > / o o \ > ===OO=====OO============================================= > (4)Portals (2)News Wikis (2)Conferences - No More BuSHIT! > Start here: http://pnews.org/ (On Internet since 1982) > http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) > http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) > ========================================================= > > > > Yahoo! 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