But - what is the book and who is the author?  As I said I missed the earlier 
parts of teh thread.  I canot get and and read it until I know what I shoudl be 
getting :-)

Ta

Garth Cartledge
> 
> From: donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 08/11/2004 9:24:36
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: [rhetoric-list] Re: [RHETORIC] They Call him "Your Exellency"
> 
> 
> i dont know what you mean?  i quoted some of the people who reviewed and 
> talked about the book, i would just suggest you get it and read it and make 
> up your own mind about the material.
> i read a great deal, i don't accept all of anything any one says. i read for 
> and against and hope that the material gives a broad picture.
> "O Jerusalem" by by Larry Collins and  Dominique LaPierre. the only thing i 
> didnt' agree with them was deir Yassin. i had to get that from several 
> sources. it came down to a party line between the right and left and they 
> quoted the right in the book. several others didnt' agree with them at all.
> but on the whole the book is very fair and showed me some good and wonderful 
> things that arabs did during that pressing time.how the common folks on both 
> sides managed to be human in such a Horrible war.
> they were very fair to both sides.
> it took them 10 years of research to do the book.
> but you can't say that maps and census's are lying . sorry. 
> any by the way i h ad this arguement with some one here. Aramaic(targum) and 
> Arabic are both lanugages. Aramaic is what jesus spoke .
> any way, research means lots of reading not just one book and sometimes you 
> have to change your mind?
>  
>    
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry, I missed the earlier part of this thread.  Cold you please give me the 
> full citation to Peters and her work, and in particular the work being 
> referred to here
> 
> Ta
> 
> Garth Cartledge
> > 
> > From: donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 08/11/2004 8:17:43
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [rhetoric-list] Re: [RHETORIC] They Call him "Your Exellency"
> > 
> > 
> > she has quite a lot of quote and maps and resources all of which she backs 
> > up. i have heard her favorably reveiwed by many people in this area. i 
> > wonder with a bibliography as big as the book how she could be so wrong. 
> > she names the people she quotes and i have these quotes from other sources.
> > i have heard mark twain quoted in a few lines, but she quotes a whole 
> > letter of his in which he speaks of his diappointment with the lack of 
> > people and the desolation of the land. 
> > i dont' use just one person, i have read much of what she said elsewere. 
> > just didn't have the sources she quoted to back them  up. it is kinda hard 
> > to dicker with the very people who said those things isn't it?
> > how can you screw up the actual census records or officals who say these 
> > things? also many of the arabs she quote are very pro israel? 
> > she was the white house consultant on the middle east in `1977 and lectured 
> > extensivelly on the middle east.   
> > Philip m Hauser Director Emeritus Population Research Center, University of 
> > Chicago and former acting director of the U.S.Census states:" her book 
> > provides demographic and hsitoric perspectives which have been inexplicably 
> > and substantially ingorned until now."
> > Saul Bellows, S.D. Gotein, the Institute of Sdvanced Study, Princeton. 
> > William v. O'Brian Gerogetown University , the New Rebulic, National 
> > Review, Altantic Monthy, Los Angeles time, Toronto Star and many many more 
> > are witness that some one thinks she is saying some thing worth will.
> > i have heard people dispute small things in her book but never dispute the 
> > whole contents.   
> >   
> > 
> > "(ARTEMIS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I would not use Peters as a source. Most scholars, including those who are
> > more sympathetic to the Zionist cause will not use her data, referring to
> > it instead as pseudo-scholarship, since most of her own sources are not
> > credible or some source quoting from another source who is quoting from
> > yet another source and some of it has been refuted. It was poorly
> > researched and seems now to be overly biased in favor of her conclusions.
> > It is appealing to use her as a source to support your own conclusions and
> > agenda but it doesn't do you or your cause any good to do so.
> > 
> > Hank
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, donnella whitacre wrote:
> > 
> > > Sasson Saleb 90, was one of six elderly jews airlifted out of iraq to
> > > israel on july 25, 2003. with his departure 28 jews remained in a
> > > country that was once home to 125,000 jews. that is just one country. we
> > > out number the so called arab refugee a great many of who have only been
> > > there one generation. i just got done reading "From Time Immemorial" and
> > > if even half of it is true, this is the biggest lie fostered in this
> > > century. her documentation is practically another book in its; self.
> > > what israel has become is a direct result of 54 years of self defense.
> > > untill the hatred shown them by the arabs is erased, i don't think there
> > > will be peace. as i told another poster, sharon is wiping out the
> > > settlements trying to make it happen, alienating most of the jewish
> > > population. i gaurantee you they will find some other reason why they
> > > can't agree to peace. i am glad we can agree on something, that is a
> > > start. great things come from little beginings.
> > 
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