I have often quoted from Peter's book and am certainly far from the extreme 
right; therefore, I can only conclude that you yourself have drawn 
"conclusions selectively" and have not yourself learned from the Martin 
Kramer from Kings College whom you reference. Considering the vast 
documentation which Peters has in her biography, I think there are plenty of 
other sources to quote.....including those of the Arab leaders themselves. 
However, I am not suggesting that Peter's book is not open for 
critique......as are any other historical books, whether they are written by 
a "Johnny-on-the-spot" or an historical scholar.
    Minelle Paloff


From: "(ARTEMIS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> Only someone on the extreme right would even consider quoting Joan Peters,
> who has been rightfully discredited by every respectable scholar. It would
> not matter if what she said was true because it was so poorly documented.
> you really need to find another source to quote. Joan Peters was a
> reporter (I don't know what she is now) and she was no historian nor did
> she even pretend to be. If her conclusions were different from where she
> started it doesn't mean she was convinced by logic; she could just as well
> have been influenced by scholarship as poor as her own.
>
> Martin Kramer from Kings College who is a scholar provides some insight
> into how not to draw conclusions selectively and with some embellishment
> in his review of From Time Immemorial:
>
> "This arrogant style admits no understatement, and it ruins arguments that
> would be utterly irrefutable were they presented with a higher regard for
> factual precision. Example: The record of Arab collaboration with the Axis
> is damning enough without Peters astonishing assertion that the Mufti of
> Jerusalem was personally responsible for the concentration camp slaughter
> of hundreds of thousands of Jews, if not more. Why, in that event, did
> Israel fail to punish him, and instead allow him to circulate for another
> 30 years until old age claimed himnot under an assumed name in South
> America, but in Beirut, where he lived as a celebrity? Peters is simply
> wrong. The Mufti was a political collaborator and ideological ally of Nazi
> Germany; but he was not what she calls a coordinator of the Final
> Solution. In one stroke of exaggeration, Peters has completely obfuscated
> the meaning of responsibility for the Holocaust."
>
> and,
>
> "Oddly, too, her indictment of Britains Palestine policy is out of step
> with current Israeli scholarship, which is more inclined to regard
> Britains role in the creation of a Jewish homeland as indispensable. In
> short, indignation has gotten the better of her, and has left this polemic
> vulnerable on points of fact and interpretation."
>
> As for her argument about demographics, he says, she is probably right
> about much of it. But the damage is already done......
>
>
> Hank
>





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