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Mr. Kent, It is not that I disagree that past Christian anti-Semitism was horrible and long-lived and led to the Holocaust. Any student of history in the least should know that much. What I take issue with is the _comparison_ with Muslim anti-Semitism, which is what Hank's article was about. There is a tenuous link between the two, but in present times it is Muslim anti-Semitism that we are facing now (Mel Gibson and his Dad notwithstanding.) And, IMO, it is the mix of Muslim anti-Semitism and technology that pose the greatest danger to Jews everywhere _today_. As far as killing and revenge killing is concerned I also tend to agree that it truly can lead nowhere for either side, but, and I have posed this question many times over the years, what would you have Israel do? Should she lie down and not defend herself? And if Israel pulled out of the "occupied territories" completely (something I have advocated for years, only to prove a point!) do you honestly believe that attacks against Israel would cease? It is my firm belief that if Israel were to pull back to the pre-1967 borders yesterday, that it would be viewed by Arabs in general and Palestinians in particular as a sign of _weakness_, and that attacks would _increase_ rather than cease. So, might you express what _you_ think Israel's next move should be? And to reiterate, I am firmly against most if not all right wing thought, but in tiny Israel's place with only _one_ real ally (I won't use the term "friend") in the U.S. I, personally cannot see what else Israel should do, other than trying to eliminate her enemies. As much as I abhor violence, I understand that Israel's existence is _paramount_ considering the history of her creation through the lens of the Holocaust. It is my belief that if Israel did not exist Jews everywhere might not either. And considering the percentage of the world's population that calls itself Jewish (approx. 15-17 _million_ out of over 6 billion people!) and also considering the level of violence elsewhere in the world I find the attention given to Israel wholly disproportionate to reality. On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:24:25 -0400, you wrote: >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > >Let's not forget that it was the Christians, Isabel and Ferdinand, who >in 1942 drove both the Muslims and Christians out of Spain. The various >pogroms since then have been committed by Christians -- need I spell out >the details. The tensions with Jews in Muslim countries erupted when >Israel moved into territory that had been mainly Muslim and Christian to >create a Jewish state. I am entirely sympathetic with that effort, as I >was horrified by the Holocaust -- Christian inspired, not Muslim -- as a >child. However, we are living in the present and brutal tit for tat is >a losing operation for all involved in it. It is primitive and betrays >at the the various least the Zionist ideal. And it looks as though >Israel is in decline with its right wing leadership not only using >killing as its simplistic tool, but also facing indictment for >corruption and exploitation of the economic split there between poverty >and wealth comparable to that in the U.S. How very sad for Israel and >for the U.S. I mention the history because people who are the victims >of it tend to remember it. Those who inflict such evils justify or >excuse them. Both sides in Israel/Palestine are playing fatal games. >Ed Kent > >P.S. Jericho most likely was nationalistic boasting and did not happen >so far as the evidence indicates. But it is characteristic of an >attitude of hatred that is to be belied. It is now called ethnic cleansing. > --------------------------------------------- "There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending." --Abraham Lincoln "War is like fire. You can prevent a fire, or you can try to put it out but you can't 'win' a fire." -- H. H. Arnold -------------------------------------------- Scott All that is necessary for Evil to triumph, is for good people to do nothing. --- / o o \ PNEWS Topic Specific Portals (Vortals) ===OO=====OO===========================================[1] http://pnews.org/NWO/phpnuke/ (Piss Off George Portal) [2] http://pnews.org/MEP/phpnuke/ (Myth Busters Portal) [3] http://g0lem.net/PHP/phpnuke/ (Insane Planet Portal) [4] http://g0lem.net/HTH/phpnuke/ (Wacko World Portal) [5] http://g0lem.net/AAA/phpnuke/ (Bad-Ass Truth Portal) [6] http://pnews.org/AAA/phpnuke/ (Naked Truth Portal) [7] http://pnews.org/portal/ (PNEWS Portal) [8] http://g0lem.net/portal/ (TheGolemsPortal) ======================================================= \_/ \_/
