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I keep hearing over and over again from both sides how God has promised them this land. I have one question. When did God become a real estate broker? 'nuf said! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Defending the Truth discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of donnella whitacre Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RHETORIC] FOLLOW UP: SECURITY FENCE |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| sorry guy we have been there since 1700 b.c.e. you have been there at the most 700 years. the jews have never left that area, so how did it become all yours? syria was greek for over 600 years, the phillistines were greek. there were three peoples in palestine, jews, christians, and arabs, you are not the only ones from there. this book i am reading was written in 1972 and they refer to palestinians(jews) and arab palestinians. so even then they knew it. we jews have been there way long. but sharing is nice, you got a great part of the partition ,not enough? thsi all or nothing thing is a bummer for all concerned, especially those of both people that want to get along, those suffering in poverty because the money is being looted and spent on munions instead of education, medical and such. read the the PLO charter, destruction nothing less. great peace partner Mohammad Basirul Haq Sinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Dear Donella, Hamas is "human" while Zionists are "arrogant". Hamas is fighting to regain control over their land of birth the occupied Palestine while Zionists have intruded from Europe/America to grab their land. Hamas is on theil own soil while Zionists have gone to grab others territorry. M.B.H.S. donnella whitacre wrote: |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| most of those killed are armed combatants not women and children. and if they are not fighting terrorists what do you think are in those tunnels,and why are they there. what do you think hamas is that takes credit for every dead jew< a social club? you don't have to be in the military to be a target, all you have to do is pick up a gun and shot at soldiers or other jews. of course you don't know the answers, none of it is simple except the part were we blame israel and say nothing about the actrocites of the other side that are the reason for going into these camps to begin with. the IDF doesn't just decide to go there and cause trouble. "Michael D. Fein" wrote: |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Hank, Once again you voice my sentiments exactly. Due to time limitations, I do not participate in this ongoing discussion as often as I would care to, but I DO read most of the postings. The fact is that there are no simple answers. But one fact is undeniable; violence continues to breed more of the same. Israel is abusing its power continuously with the constant claim that they are fighting terrorists. But for the most part, I see them fighting and killing civilians and innocent women and children. Now, please people who are reading this posting, understand that I really DO support the existence of the State of Israel. However, I also happen to believe the Palestinians are entitled to a home land and both sides at this point are working counter to those goals. Israel is overall, the far stronger power, and they must use their power in a morally responsible manner. Before you blow up a home or neighbourhood because you THINK it might be an area where suspected terrorists are located, do some intelligence work and make sure you got it right. Going after actual terrorists is certainly understandable and correct. But all too often, entire neighbourhoods and people are destroyed on suspicions with no proof ever offered before or after. The Palestinian authority must also take aggressive action against terrorism and suicide bombers, but refusing to talk to each other ain't gonna accomplish mutual cooperation. Both sides can find reasons to continue fighting and come up with rationales as to why they are right. But the bottom line is the Palestinian leaders are being ineffective and the Israeli government is acting like bullies. New leadership is needed on both sides of the equation. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Defending the Truth discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEBMASTER Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RHETORIC] FOLLOW UP: SECURITY FENCE |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, G. Waleed Kavalec wrote: > > > IDF and military not the same as wanton terrorists who sneak in > > houses and kill children and women > > > No, your military bastards blow the whole house up. I agree with you. There is no excuse for this. It is a horrible policy and everyone should object to it. Those of you who are as incensed as I am over needless killing, should continue to speak against these practices. Anyone who considers valid criticism is disingenuous. The progressive position is clear. By criticizing murder does not imply someone is antisemitic or anti-Islam if suicide bombers are also criticized, but it not unreasonable to see the connection - that the one motivates the other and the cycle goes on unabated. It must stop. By they way, what name should we use for you? Do you have a nickname or something besides calling you G? 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