Pat Farrell;236670 Wrote: 
> > I cannot see how it is all opinion, for one must be able to compare
> the
> > output bit files in hex and see the differences compared to the
> > original. But then again if the output is compressed perhaps it is
> not
> > so easy but has not somebody else already done this?
> 
> The opinion comes in when you ask "is being pedantically absolutely
> correct important?"
> 
> With raw .WAV files (PCM) its trivial to run a diff on the files and
> see
> that they are identical. Or run a MD5 or SHA1, or even a checksum.
> 
> For most CDs, nearly any ripper will get all the bits. For those CDs,
> there is no issue, no place for opinion, the bits are identical.
> 
> For some small number of CDs or combinations of CDs and drives, you
> get
> different bits. Things like AccuRip attempt to answer "are these the
> right bits?" altho I'm not sure they are actually answering anything
> more than "lots of people got these bits from that CD" which can be a
> very strong statement, but does not mean that "these are the bits that
> the Mastering Engineer wanted on the CD."
> 
> If the pressing house screwed up the transfer, then they would press
> bits that the Mastering Engineer didn't want.
> 
> To me, the bigger question is: how much is approaching perfect bit
> retrieval important?
> 
> And for me, th answer is: I care about the music, not the geek stuff.
> If it sounds good, it is good.
> 
> On a few CDs, I didn't like the sound, and reripped them using EAC.
> Sometimes that improves the sound, and sometimes the sound on the CD
> just sucks.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pat Farrell
> http://www.pfarrell.com/

I am not being "The opinion comes in when you ask "is being
pedantically absolutely correct important?""
It was simply a question, I am not a pedant.
There are a number of programs around and I was simply wondering which
is the best. If you say it is down to your ears then fine.
Yes a check sum could be carried out and I am surpised that there is no
information about it all.
Bit retrieval is important, that is obvious, hence a check sum as you
suggest maybe illuminating who knows.
I like the EasyCD program but others go on about EAC DbAmp etc hence my
question(s).
Best
Ivan


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