I'm not going to reply to all sub-threads, it's getting out of hand.

Let's settle the air a bit.

I don't have any problem with TPE2 being used to represent album artist.  I 
didn't mind that the option to select whether it meant Band or Album Artist 
contributor role was added to the scanner.  I don't even particularly mind if 
it were the default for new users.

What I was concerned with at the time was if it replaced the existing 
functionality, or changed the way things worked for existing users without 
warning.  I was also against it setting *BOTH* Band AND Album Artist, as that 
would have caused incorrect behaviour.

I'm happy with the outcome, and that it helps other users out.  Who knows, in 
the future I may even decide to change to TPE2=Album Artist - if there were 
suitable alternative custom tags supported in SC for me to read Band/Orchestra 
information from instead.  Typically it doesn't really concern me much, because 
I now rip to FLAC with FLAC tags.  I don't really use other media player apps 
much (Foobar for desktop playback because of the SoftSqueeze/SqueezePlay 
fiasco, and iTunes just for syncing a small sub-set of my library to an iPod 
Nano, although I mainly use the iPod for PodCasts).  SC meets my needs, so I 
make the most out of the functionality it provides.


In my experience of ripping CD albums, applications don't often set TPE2 
content.  I'm sure most apps do set TPE2 for mp3 id3v2.3 tags when the user 
enters what the app calls "Album Artist", but in my experience, metadata 
sources do not often set this.  Of course, there's nothing to stop a user 
manually entering it, but I don't see why users would do that, for the cases 
when it is not necessary, which it most frequently is not.

i.e. when all songs on an album are by the same artist, only artist tags are 
retrieved and album artist is blank.

I don't think free.db holds any album artist data, or at least Mp3Tag, a very 
popular tagging app never sets TPE2 for me when I have used it to retrieve 
metadata.  EAC never sets Album Artist for me either (I rip to FLAC these days).

I must admit that I don't know too much about Gracenote, as I haven't used any 
apps that have retrieved from that metadata source.  I did query albums via a 
web interface, and didn't notice album artist information in the results, but 
it's not a full test.

But free.db is the most popular free source of metadata.  Almost all 
rippers/tagging apps seem to support it.

Compilation albums in free.db are most frequently stored as ARTIST=Various and 
the song title containing the performing artist name.  Album Artist is not set.

I just tried ripping albums in iTunes as a comparative test.  I picked two 
compilation albums and had a look at the results.  It automatically found the 
metadata for both albums (I assume it gets metadata from their own iTunes store 
and perhaps from other sources too).  All songs on both albums had "Part of 
compilation"=Yes, and each Artist tag was set to the performing artist.  Album 
Artist (TPE2) was left blank.

All such albums from iTunes or free.db source would be displayed adequately in 
SC without needing to change any tags.
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