CatBus;368236 Wrote: > Okay so now we have some detail. The REAL problem is that WinAmp and > WMP are buggy, correct? And you need to mistag the music in order for > these buggy apps to work. First off, I certainly hope that you've > filed feature requests for these apps to get them working correctly. > Secondly, I believe setting the compilation tag to 1 allows > SqueezeCenter to work even with music that's been mistagged as you > describe. If it's not then I'd agree we have a bug.
no, winamp and WMP and itunes and so on aren't buggy, they're just badly behaved, as is gracenote (CDDB). they misappropriate TPE2 to mean Album Artist, and thats out of spec. but this is so common that it is a de facto standard. and gracenote sets an album artist for everything, comp or not. i've always agreed these apps and so on act badly, but that isn't the point. logitech isn't in business to martyr itself, they want to try to work easily with whats out there. most users won't know any of the above, it won't be their fault their stuff is out of spec, and moreover, they won't care to change just for logitech, they will still want to use whatever apps they used before slim. proof that logitech wants to comply is that they respect the TCMP frame, which is made up and doesn't exist officially, but since its itunes, they do it. they simply had to bend to the reality out there. the reason i need to "mistag" albums is that i want to browse by album artist in all apps. its a universal compromise easily made. i also don't intend to fight the tide. and frankly, SC was way off the mark with its VA logic in my case. more on that... CatBus;368236 Wrote: > Assuming there are more problems than what you've described, then yes. > It's possible that WMP and WinAmp are both so buggy that there's no way > to tag your music such that it will work the same in both the buggy apps > and in a well-behaving app like SqueezeCenter. However I haven't seen > evidence that this is the case. Generally speaking if an app is so > buggy that it forces you to mistag your data, I'd look into using other > apps. sorry, that isn't reasonable for logitech to do, and they won't do it. they expect their customers to use badly behaved apps, like itunes and TCMP, and they do. it can't be wished away. i also don't understand philosophically why logitech thinks that EVERYONE wants all their comps identified and put into one special category and having their artist list suppressed as a result (and whatever other effects). should i really have to tag it all Comp=0 just to undo what it does automatically and non-optionally? why can't i just opt out? its hardly an expected feature to a new user. CatBus;368236 Wrote: > I suppose it depends on the collection. My collection has about 350 > albums and 2 were improperly guessed. But since the improper guess was > due to inadequate tagging, they were correctly detected once I provided > adequate information in the tags. well, i have ~3000 albums and nearly 30000 songs. prior to bug 8001, TPE2 wasn't even a consideration for sorting or the VA logic, yes? at that time, all my music was "properly tagged" (excepting TPE2, which had no effect on sorting or the VA logic) at that time, and i'm not exaggerating, 50% of what the VA logic called a comp was NOT a comp. why? b/c ANY CD i had that had a single artist mismatch (TPE1 for me) got called a comp. sure, you can use workarounds to get around it, but why should you have to? CatBus;368236 Wrote: > Can you provide a specific example of a compilation that cannot be made > to work in SqueezeCenter with proper tagging? As of this moment I'm > not sure such a thing exists. To me, it sounds like this whole thread > is about bugs in WinAmp and Windows Media Player. i disagree. first of all, there is no OFFICIAL album artist frame in the mp3 spec. ditto compilation frames. so why don't you tell me how to "properly tag" (a loaded term) ones mp3s and have SC get it right for ALL albums with non-optional VA logic? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.3b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56078 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/ripping
