Philip Meyer;368741 Wrote: 
> >And then regarding the discussion of guessing, I have to lend support
> >to MrSinatra.  Let's say someone has a deck of cards and asks you to
> >guess if the top card is black or red.  You don't have enough
> >information to make that determination, right?  Just like
> SqueezeCenter
> >when it encounters an album without COMPILATION tags.  You can have a
> >system though.
> This is a bad analogy.  The scanner can see all information.  If it
> were making decisions based on some information, then perhaps you could
> call it guessing.  eg. if it made a decision based on only 2 out of 10
> tracks on an album.  But that isn't the case.  It reads all information
> on all songs, and then decides afterwards based on sound logic whether
> songs are part of compilation albums.
> 
> 
> I different analogy, involving playing cards:
> 
> A scanner can see the information on all cards in a collection.  If the
> pattern on the back of the cards were all the same, the cards are part
> of the same set and belong together.  If one of the cards had a
> different pattern on the back of the card, that card belongs to a
> different set.  This is a compilation of cards.
> 
> Tagging songs is similar.  Cards=Songs, Collection of cards=Albums,
> Suit=Genre.  Pattern on the back of cards=album artist.
> 
> Compilations follow a set of rules, because there is no entity to map a
> compilation to.  The information is there for those rules to work.  
> 
> If someone lost a card from a pack, you could take a spare from another
> deck of cards, and add it into the original pack.  That is a compilation
> of cards.  If you want to play a fair game, you'd have to change the
> pattern on the back to match, so it would not look like a compilation
> of cards.
> 
> You could add post-it notes on each card to say "I am/am not part of a
> compilation of differing cards", but that's a pretty silly thing to do,
> because it is only meaningful when the collection of cards is
> maintained.  If collections were mixed up, or a single card were taken
> from the pack, a post-it note saying "I am/am not part of a
> compilation" is not really true.
> 
> The main point is that songs, albums, album artists, genres are
> entities that are real things.  A compilation is a relationship between
> collection of entities, and follows rules to determine that
> relationship.

so phil, answer this question...

in your opinion, SC should be designed such that EVERY artist mismatch
means that something should be identified to SC as a comp?

is that your opinion?

so when i have a single guest artist on a CD, that should be identified
as a comp to SC?

is that what you believe?

i mean, i'm beginning to think you think SC knows better than humans as
to what is and isn't a comp.

i love how you always avoid the fact that SC gets it wrong in reality. 
you just stick to this myopic view about the rule it uses, and not the
results the rule produces.

what good is the rule, if it produces results that aren't true?  and i
mean true as in the reality of the situation, not the stupid rule.


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