slimpy;380504 Wrote: > This sure were interesting if we discussed the loudness war. But we're > not. > > As to the math... > RG values per disc might be mathematically more exact but this leads to > the following problem: > A two disc album I examined in my collection has the following RG > values > Disc 1 gain: -8.05 dB > Disc 2 gain: -5.33 dB > > Album gain: -7.24 dB > > Track gain last track disc 1: -7.71 dB > Track gain first track disc 2: -7.11 dB > > If we listen to this album using disc gain we will have a gain jump > between disc 1 and 2 of 2.72 dB. > The first track of disc 2 will be played back louder than the last > track of disc 1 even though the track is actually quieter (according to > track gain). > Using album gain both discs will be played back with -7.24 dB. This > will preserve the natural variance between the two tracks. > Who's gonna adjust the volume now? > > Your seemingly impeccable "my way is better" approach isn't the perfect > solution in all cases.
that is very interesting, but you are putting out a fallacy... first of all, there is no jump, insofar as jumps already existing between tracks on the same disc! what do i mean? using my way, each disc overall still plays at the reference album value volume, sure there may seem to be a difference between the last track of the first disc, and the first track of the second disc, but thats NO DIFFERENT AT ALL then if you had "loudness differences" between two tracks on the SAME disc. afterall, there will be no break between disc one and disc two in either method, (if using SC to play both discs back to back in order). sure, my method doesn't necessarily make volume knob adjustments unnecessary, but simply, less likely. in your example, you may NOT need to adjust the volume between the last track of the first disc, and the first track of the second disc, but i would contend you would be MORE likely to adjust it between OTHER tracks on the discs overall, than i would be. thats my point. slimpy;380504 Wrote: > Here's my more differentiated approach on how to apply RG values: > > Albums... > An album is a continous piece of work consisting of tracks. > An album can span one or more physical media, depending on its length. > Album gain should be applied to the whole album, regardless of number > of physical media. > > Box sets... > comprise of multiple albums or variations of the same album. > A box set consisting of a studio and live version is considered two > albums. > A rerelease of two or more original albums in one package are multiple > albums. > Album gain should be applied per album in the box set. Not per disc > because one album in the box set can still be more than one disc! > > Compilations... > are borderline cases because they are not really albums but collections > of individual tracks. > I'm not sure if album gain should be applied to them at all since there > is no variance between tracks that needs to be preserved. > IMO a compilation is basically the same as listening to a random mix > where track gain should be used. > > -s. i think what you wrote above is the conventional wisdom... but i think per disc is better for reasons i outlined in previous posts. your method makes assumptions about intent, and it also downplays the goal of making less volume knob adjustments. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (my home) / SBR (parent's home) / SBC (my home) - w/SC 7.3.2b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57543 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/ripping
