Not knowing your broadcast environment but one thing to consider is that 
the 1010 is an unbalanced card. So you might have to buy a lot of 
balancing amps to integrate it into your plant.

John

On 4/12/2013 5:34 AM, Alan Smith wrote:
> Kind of what I am finding as well.
>
> I am just wondering what features I will be giving up (if any?) by NOT
> having an ASI 6xxx series card in Rivendell?  For example, I am pretty
> sure with Simian [not what we use, but I am somewhat familiar with it]
> you must have an ASI card for time stretching of audio.  Unless they
> changed that in their current version, that feature is just not
> available at all without ASI.
>
> A 6xxx is terribly expensive, but a 5xxx seems to be in the realm of
> possibility (but the M-Audio 1010 with breakout box is the ideal price
> range!).
>
> Anyone want to pick up production of the M-Audio 1010 LOL?
>
> -Alan
>
>
>
> On 4/12/2013 5:32 AM, Wayne Merricks wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a word on the Deltas, I've been told by several suppliers that
>> they are end of life.  They are still purchasable all over the place
>> though and have been for the last 6 months since I got that news. The
>> horrible thing is unless you're looking at USB/Firewire I honestly
>> haven't found any decent cards with multiple outputs without getting
>> into the ASI money territory.
>>
>> I still don't trust USB/Firewire for production due to horrible past
>> experiences although I must admit I have two little 2 in, 2 out boxes
>> (1 stereo in/out) that have been fine.  I've also had a hard time
>> getting Firewire Audio working under linux as most still stick to Mac
>> and Windows .
>>
>> The only other cards I can find as a middle ground between Deltas and
>> ASI are things like the Digigram VX820e ($600 vs ASI $900+). I have no
>> idea how well they work under Linux/Riv although they are meant to be
>> ALSA compatible so in theory they might be ok.
>>
>> I don't know how the ASI's work with Riv but they're meant to have
>> time stretching built in and generally do other things to offload the
>> audio processing from the CPU.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 12/04/13 10:36, Alan Smith wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>      Got a two parter here:
>>>
>>> 1)  Aside from hardware mpeg decoding, what features does an ASI 6xxx
>>> have in Rivendell that cannot be utilized with ALSA sound cards?
>>>
>>> 2)  What is a good alternative card?  Looking specifically for at least
>>> 2 stereo in, 4 stereo out BALANCED card in current production.
>>>
>>> Expanding on my questions a little bit:
>>>
>>> I am fairly new to Rivendell.  Been tinkering with it for about a year
>>> now.  Our very first system is on its way to be installed as I type
>>> this.  We are really starting to get serious about upgrading all of our
>>> systems to Rivendell.  Our current system are DOS 6.22 based.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if we could just re-used the old sound cards in our
>>> current automation systems, but unfortunately, they are all ASI 4xxx
>>> series cards.
>>>
>>> Although we keep an eye out on ebay for ASI 6xxx cards, that isn't a
>>> good way to plan an upgrade for the number of stations we have.
>>>
>>> I really like the M-Audio Delta 1010 - That looks like the perfect
>>> candidate, but aside from ebay, I don't see anyone who sells them. I am
>>> starting to think it may be out of production.  Again, not a great way
>>> to plan a major upgrade over time, unless we purchase a couple dozen at
>>> once, which won't happen.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Alan
>>>
>>>
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