You know what that's an awesome idea. $35 for the raspberri pi 3 which is a better machine than what I'm dealing with. I'd be interested in that image if your willing to share.
I did track down part of my database issue. It would appear that MySql was freaking out because the cron job I created to auto import carts was creating to many threads so it was shutting down. However, I think I've got some database corruption in there as well. I've got carts that say they exist, yet they won't play, I can't change my grids, and my log generation is hit and miss. Will generate a log for one day, and not the next. But will do the day after fine. ________________________________ From: Seth Stevenson <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:54 AM To: Joe Thompson Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RDD] Cloud Setup Question? Not sure if this is a good idea, but here goes. If you have a decent server, or can buy one on ebay for a couple hundred bucks, then you could use raspberry pi's in the studio(s). I know some folks don't like to go that route, but we are using them in an RF environment, and they seem to be holding up fine. I have an image you can use for the pi, or it can be compiled from source. The music and database can be on the server, and you can put the pi's wherever you need them. This may not be idea, but it would be a cheap startup, until they can bring in some cash. That way you can use a LAN and avoid internet setups. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Joe Thompson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Internet is going to play a big part of this anyway. They are moving their transmitter offsite and instead of forking the money to setup a uhf or microwave connection they are using barix boxes for their STL. So if the internet goes out at either location they're down anyway. I tried talking them away from doing that. But that's what they set their eyes on. I'm not concerned with the security aspect as I have the technical no how to secure cloud servers and get a p2p vpn setup. Now when talking money. Let me tell you what I'm dealing with. When I came on they had a another automation system. The automation was BSI wavestation. I had it up and working for them etc. Problem is they didn't want to spend the extra I believe at the time was around $1500 for the traffic and log creation software needed to make it run as it should. Because without it somebody would of had to have gone in everyday and manually create a log and they didn't want that. So I gave them their options spend the $1500 or we go with Rivendell. The machines I got it setup up on are at least 8 to 10 years old. They where old Windows Vista machines. The only half way decent machine is the server with is a HP G6 line that was given to them. However, it needs SAS drives to run as it should. They won't fork out the money that I need to make it right. The problem I'm dealing with now is a corrupt database issue. It's all related to numerous power outages and no UPS for the server like I recommended it be put on. That's why I'm looking at the cloud as a possible solution. ________________________________ From: Lorne Tyndale <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:37 PM To: Joe Thompson; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [RDD] Cloud Setup Question? Joe, I'd avoid anything "cloud" based for a number of reasons. 1 - Rivendell (or any playout system for that matter) should never be on the open internet. It really should be on a private LAN (or at least a private VLAN). For reasons of security and reliability it is a bad idea to put it online. Aside from security you also should consider - what happens if / when your internet connection goes down or slows down (or the connection to the "cloud" server slows down)? 2 - The best storage option for your audio is uncompressed linear PCM format. This works well, but takes a lot more bandwidth then you're likely to get on an internet-to-cloud server type of setup 3 - Rivendell works best when it has a fast connection to its SQL server and /var/snd share, preferably on a local network. Considering the amount that you'd end up paying for an internet connection with the needed speed and reliability plus the cost of a cloud-server you'd likely be better off purchasing some new or gently-used hardware Fortunately it is possible to get Rivendell to run on relatively inexpensive hardware and / or older hardware. While not ideal, if there are budget issues with a non-profit it is still possible to set up a fairly robust system using older re-purposed hardware. I quite often see 5 year old or less used and functional systems for sale at very reasonable prices (people and businesses who have upgraded for the sake of upgrading). Setting up 2 Rivendell servers that mirror each other (and are "hot-swappable - you can set this up with aman) along with however many workstations you might need for playout / production / etc is possible to do on a limited budget. Even large hard drives are cheap these days. I'd explain that this is going to become the main playout system for the station, and thus it is just as important as the rest of the air chain (antenna / transmitter / processor / STL / EAS box / etc). While it does not need to be the most expensive item in the audio chain, it does deserve some budget. > > > I've got an interesting question. Has anybody tried a cloud based Rivendell > server and sql server setup and managed to get it to work. If so what was > your experience with it? What kind of issues have you ran into if any? > > > > The reason why I'm posing the question is I'm working with a non-profit radio > station that has given me virtually no budget for new equipment and all I got > to work with is older equipment. I do have Rivendell currently setup and > running for them. But I feel that If I can move part of the system offsite to > a more reliable cloud based solution they'd be in a better situation for > reliability.<hr>_______________________________________________ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev Rivendell-dev Info Page - Paravel Systems<http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev> caspian.paravelsystems.com<http://caspian.paravelsystems.com> This is for users of the Rivendell Radio Automation System. It's a place to get help as well as discuss new features. 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