On Monday 31 December 2007 17:13, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Dec 31, 2007 6:33 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This release would get my vote, subject to the RAT report which I have
> > not run yet. The Incubator PMC is eternally grateful if the RAT report is
> > published as well.
>
> Available at
> http://people.apache.org/~jukka/river/2.1.1/apache-river-2.1.1-incubating.r
>at

Excellent...

> >  * The Notice mentions that the release contains Copyrighted material
> > from Sun Microsystems. That is Ok, but it should also mention that Sun
> > has licensed this to ASF under ALv2.
>
> Do we need to do that in the NOTICE file? I wouldn't mind doing that,
> but should the NOTICE file carry the licensing histories as well as
> copyright notices? The fact that the code is ALv2 licensed is already
> stated in LICENSE and we have the paper trail for the contribution.

I think a short "licensed to ASF under Apache License v2.0" would be better.

> For example, the example NOTICE file at
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/example-NOTICE.txt doesn't contain
> licensing histories.
>
> >  * The Notice mentions the Service UI project, developed by several
> >    individuals, but doesn't mention any licensing. If the ServiceUI was
> > ALv2 from the beginning, then mention that. If it was something else, I
> > think that could possibly be an encumbered codebase, depending on
> > circumstances. I suggest that the Mentor(s) list this for investigation,
> > and clarify the result both in the incubating status file as well as in
> > the NOTICE.
>
> See above. We have a software grant for the ServiceUI contribution
> which makes it distributable under ALv2. Of course we could better
> document the licensing history (previously under Sun Community Source
> License), but I'm not sure it's necessary or even relevant.

Ok, so each and *all* contributors to the ServiceUI project have either;

 a) Made a copyright assign to Bill or Artima, which in turn has a Software
    Grant to ASF, OR
 b) Signed off to change the license from SCSL to ALv2 prior to coming
    to ASF, OR
 c) Provided a Software Grant, for their contribution, to the ASF.

(Perhaps some other scenario is satisfactory as well, I just can't think of 
any.)

I still think a similar text as above is suitable to simplify for downstream 
users.


Everyone, sorry for being a pain in the butt, but this is what ASF is all 
about when it comes its legal respect among our downstream users.


Cheers
-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer

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