Suggestion for a fourth alternative, do the release, but split off the 3rd party apps with regressions out of rosapps to roswork or some such, possibly as a separate repository, so the kernel and core apps can be focused on. Someone fixes the regressions and that app can be moved back into the main tree or repo. Can put in the release notes how to access that tree from RosBE for those interested in those apps. ________________________________ From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org> on behalf of Alexander <art1st...@yandex.ru> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 2:13:03 PM To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev@reactos.org> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] The situation with version 0.4.14
I vote for: 1. the immediate release of version 0.4.14 as it is, with the publication of the list of known regressions in the release notes 2. immediate start of preparation of release 0.4.15 just right after the release of 0.4.14 Skipping the release is not a good option as we losing PR occasion. Regression fixing for 0.4.14 is waste of time and workforce (in case we can not fix regressions immediately) -- Best regards, Alexander Rechitskiy +79286331900 09.02.2021, 18:48, "Victor Perevertkin" <victor.perevert...@reactos.org>: Hello! It seems for me that it's time to bring up the topic about our RC version - 0.4.14. Our current "stable", 0.4.13 was branched on 30 September, 2019 (remember those peacefull pre-COVID times :D) That's quite some time, but not the main issue I'd like to discuss. 0.4.14 was branched on 24 April, 2020. That's almost a year already. And we're in a difficult situation here - there are regressions, but nobody fixed them within this long time. According to https://reactos.org/wiki/Tests_for_0.4.14<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Freactos.org%2Fwiki%2FTests_for_0.4.14&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1b67421acc4647ee003608d8d0538235%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637488404374119813%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hGuIjFm0SWyEU1EQcKW3rwW%2BHReUIP42vAip4m3KxWg%3D&reserved=0>, there are 29 unfixed regressions found for this release. I'd like to point out: most of them are among usermode and non-kernel/driver functionality, and as our development is mostly focused in the kernel right now, it's unexpected for them to be fixed unless a volunteer comes up. A quick reminder. Our "releases" mechanism is useful for finding regressions in the first place, there is no that much benefit for users here, because we're still a "deep" alpha. Correct me if I'm wrong. Joakim made a great job finding all regressions, and this work won't be lost in any case. We can't wait forever and I think it's time to resolve this situation somehow. I see two options: 1. Release 0.4.14 as-is. There were a lot more buggy releases, nobody dies from this. 2. Skip 0.4.14. This already happened once in the history of the project - 0.3.2 was skipped. I wasn't around at the time, but I may guess that reasons were similar to what we have today. (3.) Fix the bugs quickly. I don't expect this to happen, but who knows, maybe a volunteer appears :) Let's vote. This seem to be the only way for us to decide on things. Votes from the team members will be collected until 1 March. === I personally vote for skipping the release. The work on finding regressions is already done, so the most important part of a release cycle for us is there (thanks Joakim!) If we do a release now, all the stuff we were writing in news reports for the last 6 month would be missing from it. That would cause (as I think) a lot of confusion to people. Moreover 0.4.14 is not that featureful release itself (compared to 0.4.13, which brought the new USB stack) So I suggest to move on and start checking 0.4.15 for regressions. I expect quite some of them to appear and we need time for fixing. Cheers, Victor , _______________________________________________ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org<mailto:Ros-dev@reactos.org> http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Freactos.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fros-dev&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1b67421acc4647ee003608d8d0538235%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637488404374119813%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=86mocmgm5UVwJY4Mil4MpFVZwsp5Dcrv5gOphn3woh0%3D&reserved=0> -- С наилучшими пожеланиями!
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