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On 12 Apr 2008, at 9:52 pm, Guillaume Laurent wrote:
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> On Apr 12, 2008, at 18:18 , D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
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>
>> I've
>> never liked the Apple way of doing things, and I don't see that
>> changing.
>
> OS X is just what KDE dreams to be :-).

You mean Darwin is what KDE dreams to be? KDE is a desktop, OS-X is a  
kernel. Sort of.

If you mean the whole packaage, I can't forgive the fact that the  
autoconf stuff is all broken, you have to deal with the Framework gcc  
"extensions", darwinports won't even install at the moment, at least  
not on my G4 PowerBook, all the great open source stuff is X which is  
so badly integrated with Darwin that you end up running 2 separate  
desktops, you have to routinely run programs which "fix disk  
permissions" (?) ... yada yada. It is a good Java platform though.
>
>> I
>> sure as hell don't want to buy into a one way trip that locks me
>> into Apple
>> as the only solution.
>
> There aren't that many other destinations. Try using one a bit, you
> might like it.
Sorry, Guillaume, but I've just drunk a bottle of wine and it made me  
break silence. The only thing wrong with Linux is that it's hard to  
get it pre-installed. Have you tried installing other OSs from  
scratch? Apple have it easy because OS-X runs on so few different  
hardware platforms, and they manufacture them. Can you really say  
that installing Windows is easier? You need a box full of device  
driver CDs and a telepathic ability to present them in the right order.

My Mac won't even play MPEG2 files out of the box! And instead of  
having all the solutions in one place and just an "apt-get install"  
away, I have to choose from Fink, Darwinports etc. The upshot is that  
I've got two wishs, two pythons, two gccs, two Qts... what a bloody  
mess.  And it doesn't talk to our Sun servers properly. And it dumps  
silly trash files all over my flash key and MP3 player. And when you  
"upgrade" the media player (which it does by default unless you stop  
it), you lose a lot of the functionality. And you can't get it to run  
something when you plug the ethernet in (it's got something called  
launchd instead of anything unix guys might be familiar with, and it  
can't simulate Linux's /etc/networks/if-up.local functionality).

If you just want to use what you've given, the Mac is great, and  
total eye candy. But try developing on it for a few days, you'll be  
back! (It still beats the hell out of Windows though).

If I'd bought my Mac with my own money, I'd be really annoyed. I tell  
you, it's nanometers away from getting wiped and having Linux  
installed on it!

Of course, this is all subjective, and tomorrow I'll probably regret  
I've written it.

Nick/.

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