In article <[email protected]>, Bob Latham
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Jim Lesurf
>    <[email protected]> wrote:

BTW Bob, note that you may not need a very large 'adfs' (i.e. hd4.hdf
file). You should be able to put most apps and files onto hostfs (which
looks like a HD to RPCEmu) and they work there. You can also boot from
that. However it may be simplest/safest to have !Boot on the 'adfs4' drive.
And some apps may not work correctly with hostfs if they use some 'clever'
aspects of the normal RO filing/filer systems and find a bug.

So I keep !Boot on the 'adfs' disc, but have other things on hostfs. This
means I don't need to preallocate a lot of space to an image file for
adfs4.

> > The best way to deal with filetypes for any transferred RO files is to
> > put them into a zip at source using something like sparkfs. Put the
> > zip into the 'hostfs' directory (if that is what it is called on the
> > XP version). Then when RPCEmu runs you can find them as zips on your
> > emulated RPC in the host 'disc'.

> OK, I think. But I have no !Boot on the hd4. How on earth do I get it
> there? It could be that I'm really stupid but the manual to me has
> nothing to say on this.

Try either

http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/arculator/hdboot.zip

On Linux you can put that into the RPCEmu directory and use 'unzip
hdboot.zip'. It then gives you a small hd4 file with the boot sequence. 

Or

http://support.riscos.com/Support/Releases/RO4install.zip

Then put RO4install.zip into histfs as RO4install,ddc (note the comma and
ddc, they give it a filetype when seen by RPCEmu).

See below for how to then install.

Dunno if you need to do this differently for Windows. IIRC I think I used
the RO4install.zip method.

> > There is a self-extracting program for getting them out of a zip. Use
> > that to transfer sparkfs asap and that'll make life easier from then
> > on.

> Where can I find this self extracting item? Not seen any mention of this
> anywhere else.

http://www.davidpilling.net/splug.bas

Note this is a BBC BASIC file. When fetching or downloading take care if
using a browser that the process doesn't fiddle with the content. If you
have 'wget' or similar use that to download to a file. 

Change the name to splug,ffb (comma and filetype again). Then put it in the
hostfs directory. The start RPCEmu and run it as a BBC BASIC program with
RPCEmu. It should then give you a copy of sparkplug on you hostfs drive. 

Again a health warning. I'm basing this on what I recall of Linux
installing. So I can't say if installing now on Windows will all be as I
describe. The above should give you some lines of attack, though.

Note that as also warned you may also have to issue commands like

*configure filesystem ADFS
*configure drive 4

and use opt 4,<n>  ( I can never remember if it is opt 4,2 or 4,3!)

etc

just like on a real RPC if you wish to boot from adfs4.


> I must be missing some reading somewhere as these very basic essential
> points don't appear to be answered in any of the things I've read. 

I'm afraid that the documentation may be a little disorganised overall, and
scattered in various places. It has been written at various times and
during the time the emulator have developed. As a result the instructions
have also 'evolved'.

Cheers,

Jim

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