>> The second sentence I don't have any problem with: If we are saying 
>> "we don't have consensus on how to separate Identity from Location",
>> then IMHO it is perfectly reasonable that this also means, or is even
>> caused by, a lack of consensus on precisely what the problem is. 
>
> Related to the last half of the above paragraph, are you saying
> that RFC 4984 is not a sufficient "problem statement"?  If so, why?
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4984
>
> -shane

In deciding how to vote on the four questions, each of us need to figure out 
whether we agree with the statements. The one statement that I haven't decided 
on is "The RG has rough consensus that separating identity from location is 
desirable and technically feasible." One problem is that I don't think that 
there is precise enough agreement on what this means for the apparent consensus 
(if there is one) to mean much. Also, it is not clear to me whether the 
statement will be interpreted as "desirable given a complete and thorough 
understanding of the costs and implications", or whether the statement means 
"generally desirable, but without precise consideration of the costs and 
implications". 

I agree with the observation that "... However, the RG does NOT have consensus 
on the best engineering approach to such an identity/location split", and 
wonder whether this implies that I should not be concerned with the fact that I 
don't think that we agree on what precisely an ID/LOC split is. 

I think that RFC4984 is good enough to motivate work that is leading to 
increased understanding of what is possible in routing and addressing, and 
associated costs and implications. I also think that RFC4984 is a sufficiently 
accurate reflection of the discussion that occurred during the Amsterdam 
routing and addressing workshop. We know more now. Hopefully we will know still 
more in six months or a year. 

Ross
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